Talk:Ludwig von Mises Institute

	This Economics related article has been awarded BRONZE status for quality. It's getting there, but could be better with improvement. See RationalWiki:Article rating for more information.

Archives for this talk page:

<1>

, (new)

Compensation For Slaveowners

There's a reference in this article that "some wanted to compensate slaveowners". Actually, Abraham Lincoln made considerable efforts towards that end, saying it would cost less than continued prosecution of the war against the Confederacy. However, he got no takers from the slave states still in the Union, and finally had to give it up. And so all the slaves were (more or less) freed with no compensation. FWIW -- MrG (Greg Goebel)^{— Unsigned, by: 168.103.70.3 / talk / contribs}

edit 9/22/2019

I just removed a false quote used as a source. The full quote is "Quick now: who was the most hated, the most smeared man in American politics in this century, more hated and reviled than even David Duke, even though he was not a Nazi or a Klu Kluxer? He was not a libertarian, he was not an isolationist, he was not even a conservative, but in fact was a moderate Republican. And yet, he was so universally reviled that his very name became a generic dictionary synonym for evil. I refer, of course, to Joe McCarthy." so they don't say Duke is not a nazi like the article stated, but McCarthy isn't one.--77.10.186.47 (talk) 09:26, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

The quotation (above) and the article as a whole do not defend Duke. If the quotation transcribed above is being interpreted as "[Duke] was a moderate Republican" it would also have to be claiming "[Duke] was not a Nazi or Klu Kluxer" as well. It's common for right-wingers to say Duke isn't a Nazi. They are not quite shameless enough to claim he is not in the KKK. What the article does is stan McCarthy very hard, positioning him as a misunderstood, moderate republican hero. It unambiguously characterizes antisemitism as a shallow, rhetorical tool whose true purpose is to discredit real conservatives. It defends conservatives who oppose civil rights legislation. And finally, it places Pat Buchanan as an unfairly smeared, right-wing hero whose only crime is speaking with "hard-edged and therefore politically incorrect vocabulary (tsk, tsk!)"

I suggest Duke's name be replaced with McCarthy's. Any or all of the other elements could be rightly included in this article as well. WimbleWamble (talk) 18:14, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Holocaust Denial

I noticed the Mises Institute have published editions of a couple of James J. Martin's books. Martin was a notable holocaust denier. Obviously, they don't mention this anywhere. Maybe someone could look deeper into these, and see how deep the Mises Institute's holocaust denial goes. ^{— Unsigned, by: 2601:200:4:1f6f:bd87:c026:9b12:7444 / talk / contribs}

Not impossible considering how they're a bunch of hypocrates, but Mises himself fled Europe because of the Holocaust even if he was in the neutral Switzerland by that time. Many of the founders of the LvMI, like Murray Rothbard, Paul Gottfried and Walter Block, are of jewish descent (although some mild antisemites, like Joseph Sobran, were also part of the LvMI), so I'd say it's unlikely that they've ever published Martin's Holocaust denial books, although definitely possible. GeeJayK (talk) 20:05, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

the Mises institute wan not founded by Mises himself

he died 9 years before it was created by rockwell. i'm also onfused in what way it was created to counter FDR.^{— Unsigned, by: 2a02:a58:824f:ad00:6103:ed7d:66a5:6cc1 / talk / contribs}

The article says it was established with the approval of his widow, not that it was created by Mises himself, which is I believe, true (although it needs a source). A better criticism would be the fact that the institute abandoned many ideas that Mises advocated. Regarding FDR, the article says that they hated him because he refused their requests to use American power to reinstate the Austrian nobility/monarchy after WWII. I don't know if this is actually true, but it is sourced, someone would have to check it. GeeJayK^{Where all evil dwells} _{Where every lie is true} 20:40, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

The "They put this institute to work combating his ideas" section is apparently not supported by the source though. Also, Mises couldn't put the institute to work against FDR's ideas since he was dead before the institute was founded and Hayek was kinda persona non grata there. I don't know about the relationship between Otto von Habsburg and LvMI though. I'll see if I can find something about it next week. GeeJayK^{Where all evil dwells} _{Where every lie is true} 20:50, 6 April 2023 (UTC)