Talk:Martin Luther
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Martin Luther and The Book of Revelation[edit]
I've seen claims that Luther a) did not want Revelation included in the Bible at all b) when it was included, he argued it should not be taught as prophecy
Can someone more versed in history than I am comment on that? MDB (talk) 18:48, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- I am unsure about Revelation, but he did want the Epistle of James cut because of its assertion that "Faith without works is dead," which rather got in the way of his sola fide.
ListenerXTalkerX 18:50, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- I guess that you mean "wanted it removed" MDB? But I've no idea it it's true.--BobNot Jim 19:35, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- Luther did seem to think it was apocryphal. [1] ListenerXTalkerX 19:40, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- I thought Luther was part of the Council that determined which books would actually constitute the New Testament. MDB (talk) 20:07, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- You're thinking of the Council of Nicaea. Luther wanted another council to sort out the Roman Catholic Church and frequently referred to Nicaea, but no, the First Council of Nicaea was in the fourth century CE. Blue (is useful) 05:07, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
- Scriptural Canon was formally fixed for the Roman Catholic church in 382 at the Council of Rome
; for the Orthodox, in 692 at the Second Council of Trullan of 692. Isn't Wikipedia amazing? (I hope it's bloody accurate, too.) For the record, Luther didn't want Revelation in the canon --Scherben (talk) 18:05, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
- Scriptural Canon was formally fixed for the Roman Catholic church in 382 at the Council of Rome
- You're thinking of the Council of Nicaea. Luther wanted another council to sort out the Roman Catholic Church and frequently referred to Nicaea, but no, the First Council of Nicaea was in the fourth century CE. Blue (is useful) 05:07, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
- I thought Luther was part of the Council that determined which books would actually constitute the New Testament. MDB (talk) 20:07, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- Luther did seem to think it was apocryphal. [1]
- I guess that you mean "wanted it removed" MDB? But I've no idea it it's true.--BobNot Jim 19:35, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Juicy quotes[edit]
Wikiquote has another good one about "Reason":
But since the devil's bride, Reason, that pretty whore, comes in and thinks she's wise, and what she says, what she thinks, is from the Holy Spirit, who can help us, then? Not judges, not doctors, no king or emperor, because [reason] is the Devil's greatest whore.