Talk:Matthew Heimbach
Apparently[edit]
Apparently this chucklehead has quit white nationalism? Anybody actually believe that? 101.98.246.227 (talk) 02:41, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- Glenn Beck did a figurative 5-minute mea culpa and pretended to be a lefty until he realized he couldn't get the same levels of cash as he was from strawmanning and conspiracy mongering. So no, not until there are several years of repentance, which is fucking unlikely. Bongolian (talk) 03:34, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- I mean, it's (remotely) possible. However, given the nature of the far-right's leadership there would need to be a lot of good faith building before I personally would seriously consider it. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 03:38, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
Has he done anything since 2018 or so?[edit]
Because that is the last time I have even heard of him doing anything. I am unsure where he is now. According to the recent (2024) black pill book he is not a Nazi now. Odd. ResurrectingDeadLinks (talk) 17:48, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- Heimbach said he was leaving the white nationalist movement in early 2020 and became associated with the counter-extremist organisation Light Upon Light. He then wrote an article for LUL, "In from the Cold: Why I left White Nationalism," in April 2020. People quickly realised he had not truly renounced his racist/WN beliefs but was repackaging or rebranding it as a Nazbol (National Bolshevism). Various articles document he never gave up his racist beliefs and is still a huge anti-Semite:
- https://politicalresearch.org/2022/04/01/not-so-reformed
- https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hatewatch/two-prominent-neo-nazis-recant-their-actions-sow-doubts/
- https://politicalresearch.org/2022/05/11/can-you-ever-trust-former-white-nationalist
Quote from third source:
Heimbach’s subsequent connection with LUL seemed to confirm critics’ suspicion that the organization was achieving little beyond helping White nationalists rebrand themselves and their politics. In a YouTube comment in April of 2020, Heimbach posted a letter clarifying his views, expressing continued support for nationalist causes, using coded language like “anti-Zionist” to express otherwise antisemitic tropes,[34] and saying he opposed the “PC” culture found among other former White nationalists.[35]
In an email to PRA, Heimbach confirmed that while he had left White nationalism, his beliefs hadn’t moderated and he saw nothing to be contrite about. His main transformation, he suggested, was becoming a nationalist socialist rather than a national socialist. In a subsequent interview, Heimbach added that he now believes what can best solve the world’s problems is some form of authoritarian Marxism or a type of National Bolshevism—an ideological current that tries to mix ethnic nationalism with a distorted form of Marxism. Now, instead of citing neonazi leaders, he pulls from obscure Soviet or Chinese Communist Party policies to justify his far-right ideas, as well as the nationalism of some Marxist leaders such as Ho Chi Minh, while also arguing that he affirms “proletarian internationalism” and cross-racial solidarity against capitalism and its elites. Much of his apparent ideology still centers on antisemitism—calling Jews “hyper capitalists” and “rootless cosmopolitans” in our interview—even as he attempted to qualify this by suggesting he was only condemning various elites of Jewish descent (a qualification that’s been the hallmark of open antisemites for decades). He also still believes in racial IQ differences, in the unique threat that Jews and Judaism pose to the world (though he phrases it as “Zionists”), that transgender people are “mentally ill,” and that some form of nationalism is acceptable.
No real change in his core ideology. He just realised "white nationalism" had a serious image problem and is stigmatized (especially after Unite the Right rally) so rebranded as a Nazbol. He now walks around with a Soviet flag but it's all cosmetic. Guy is still an anti-Semitic conspiracy theorist, homophobe and transphobe still promoting a form of white separatism. 138.197.43.140 (talk) 20:24, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- I think it'd not be a stretch to call him nazbol. If he claims to be outright Marxist then I would find that suspect however. Even in the various Leninist-derived strains of Marxist ideology one can typically (if not always) find denunciations of fascist racial ideology and antisemitism. Chillpilled (talk) 20:33, 30 June 2025 (UTC)