Talk:Mind control

This is creepy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPLIlIbc2YM

I didn't make the video, but this kid: why is he acting like that? It's weird.--ReptoidKiller (talk) 07:59, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

There are a number of reasons he could be acting like that, and none of the best ones involve him being brainwashed by the alleged Illuminati. In the past, for example, parents who are no longer with the partner with whom they had a child have coached a child to make up false accusations of abuse (for a variety of reasons). I've said before, and I'll say again, the problem with youtube is that you can't believe everything you see on it. That goes double for things like this, which seem outragous on the surface. Noisemobile (talk) 08:16, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

I realize it takes a LOT of Occam's duct Tape to think the the Illuminati did this.

I'm wondering if you'd be willing to share a few of these proposed reasons. It DOES seem VERY outrageous to think his child acting like that, but at the same time, for some reason, I find it creepy...--ReptoidKiller (talk) 08:22, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Let me talk you through my reasoning: this father just seemed to be at the right place at the right time to film this. If it were as shocking as the person who created it wanted you to think it was, wouldn't the father be just a little more suspicious? Moreover, young children like this can be made to think anything because they haven't developed a general understanding of the world. For example, my nephew used to be terrified of people sneezing and would cry when people would sneeze. My sister taught him to think that people sneezing was just them being silly so that, when they'd sneeze, he's just laugh and say they were being silly. The same logic can be taken here: the father may have shown that hand symbol many times and, when pressed by the child, taught him exactly what to say when he saw it. Or, as is another likely case, he may have previously given his child a list of reasons to go through for the symbol so that, when pressed for why he was doing that, the kid would go through the list he had been previously given. The child doesn't know the difference, so he will go with what he had been previously told should be the logic. I'd akin this to the reason kids his age constantly ask "Why?"; it's because they don't know and will use whatever explanation they were given by somebody they trust. Noisemobile (talk) 08:33, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the rational discussion. it's pretty lacking these days.

So basically, he trained his son to do all that, like he told his son to say he doesn't like that word when he speaks those specific Latin Words?--ReptoidKiller (talk) 08:39, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

In a nutshell, yes. It is similar to how my nephew was told by his mother that certain words (i.e: swear words) are forbidden. A a result, when I swear around him, he tells his mother on me. It's what he was taught to do, and doesn't know any better because he is only 4. Noisemobile (talk) 08:45, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

(EC)What does any of this have to do with the article on Mind Control? This is some kid trying to appease his paranoid father by answering questions he obviously doesn't fully understand. Nothing more. --Inquisitor (talk) 08:47, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Because what you and I see, Inquisitor, is exactly the opposite of what the video is trying to purport. Noisemobile (talk) 08:49, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

I getcha Noisemobile. I was more asking Reptoid why he dropped this nugget here. This space is supposed to be for discussing the article, not for discussing purportedly creepy YouTube videos. --Inquisitor (talk) 08:54, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Kind of. For as long as I've been around RW, we always said "so long as it relates to the article, you can put it on the talkpage." Things may have changed recently, of course, but that was something that always differentiated us from Wikipedia. Noisemobile (talk) 09:00, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

The reason I put it here is because the video is claiming the kid was (allegedly) "mind controled". So I put it here.--ReptoidKiller (talk) 09:03, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Well in any event, the only "creepyness" I see in this video is on the part of the father. And that kid hasn't been mind-controlled... yet. In a few years I'm sure he'll learn to recite all of the nutty answers his father is expecting to get. --Inquisitor (talk) 09:08, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Considering the way the kid is ALREADY acting and answering some of those questions, the next generation of Conspiracy Theorists are going to be nuttier than this one's.--ReptoidKiller (talk) 09:15, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

I don't see CT's getting any more nutty. You know how Taco Bell keeps recombining the same handful of ingredients and calling it a new menu item? Well that's what CT's are like to me... just endless reformulations of Jews, Illuminati, Satan, Aliens... PRESTO! New conspiracy! --Inquisitor (talk) 09:42, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Still, I think it's disturbing this kid of his is already partially responding how his father wants him to. At least I had 16 years of my life before I fell into temporary paranoia.--ReptoidKiller (talk) 10:07, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

The origins of mind control

... can be found here [1] and [2]. 82.44.143.26 (talk) 19:04, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Logic and mind control

Using the definition of mind control in the article (ie not brainwashing or certain 'altered mental perceptions') at least some of these people #are# being mind controlled #by non-existent organisations#. (Others will be explorers of the weirder ends of the internet/considering 'the logical consequences of X' etc.) How strange is that? Anna Livia (talk) 10:29, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

Practical mind control

Why is 'mind control' of the sort described here not being used for practical/positive reasons? (Obey the Highway Code, Be Ethical etc)? And why aren't the people who see MC as an issue trying to reverse the activity ('You are a politician: you must take up a bizarre activity - eg Ecky Thump or clog dancing)? Anna Livia (talk) 14:03, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Brainworms

From my usual source of weird stories - [3]. Anna Livia (talk) 17:14, 25 November 2022 (UTC)