Talk:Organ theft
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Another argument against[edit]
Take 'some random person in a bar.' Chances are for the organ harvesters that this person falls into the category of 'carrier of unpleasant disease'/'undiagnosed major problem with organ in question'/addiction to something unsuitable/links to someone bigger and badder and nastier than the organ harvesters/are actually a reptile or little Green Man. 82.44.143.26 (talk) 18:24, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
- Chances are the "some random person in a bar" is someone in a first world country with a steady source of income and a home to go to: this person is not at risk of organ theft. This is classic penultimate paragraph syndrome: a load of waffle about how something which is very obviously an urban legend is very obviously an urban legend, before acknowledging in the final sentence that actually organ theft does indeed take place. But that's just poor people in foreign places, right? Nothing for our readers to worry about. Wẽãšẽĩõĩď
Methinks it is a Weasel 20:51, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
- The third world organ harvesters don't kidnap people for their delicious organs; they get the poor schmucks to agree to the operation willingly, but either don't tell them what they agreed to or don't pay them what they promised. It's exploitation of more or less the worst kind, of course, but it's not remotely close to what people imagine when they think of organ theft. Unless they go by the Chinese prisoner organ harvesting conspiracy theories, anyway. I'm desperately trying to find a news source from years ago; some government agency asked people who had the bathtub full of ice scenario come forward; no one did. CorruptUser (talk) 21:57, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
- The third world organ harvesters don't kidnap people for their delicious organs? Wrong. WěǎšěǐǒǐďMethinks it is a Weasel 22:17, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
- (Reads link) Oh FSM! Put that in the page? CorruptUser (talk) 23:56, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
- The third world organ harvesters don't kidnap people for their delicious organs? Wrong. Wěǎšěǐǒǐď
- The third world organ harvesters don't kidnap people for their delicious organs; they get the poor schmucks to agree to the operation willingly, but either don't tell them what they agreed to or don't pay them what they promised. It's exploitation of more or less the worst kind, of course, but it's not remotely close to what people imagine when they think of organ theft. Unless they go by the Chinese prisoner organ harvesting conspiracy theories, anyway. I'm desperately trying to find a news source from years ago; some government agency asked people who had the bathtub full of ice scenario come forward; no one did. CorruptUser (talk) 21:57, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
Pseudo-fake news[edit]
- So why aren't there stories of organs being sold by drug addicts, 'persons with anti-social diseases, other illnesses and no medical insurance' selling their organs for drugs and medicines respectively, in insanitary conditions without bloodtype matching/animal organs being sold as human organs etc? 82.44.143.26 (talk) 17:09, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
Needs updating?[edit]
A bit confused on why this is marked as needing updating. Has there been any real change in the subject of organ theft since the writing of the article? armed_roomba (she/her) 19:23, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
More problems[edit]
Consider the bar/hotel/other location in question.
'Some people' walk into the bar etc with a whole lot of equipment and other stuff and ask to hire a room to put their gear in. They have to fill out the paperwork (giving name and address and bank account etc) and then have an argument as to what they can take to their room and what has to be put in storage.
The bar person/waiting staff then sees occupants of room chatting someone up and plying them with alcohol, and calls police/'Ask for Angela'/other appropriate body, as they fear something criminal/dubious might be going on - and the operation is thwarted/the persons are caught in the act 'with the consequences arising for the various participants.'
If the operation were to occur there would be a physically damaged person and a sufficiency of blood and other organic matter to result in a crime scene investigation: there would also be CCTV evidence, evidence from the bank account (even if 'dubious activity' was involved) etc, and 'bars, hotels and other public places' would not want the bad publicity arising - and so the gang in question would find its operations seriously circumscribed (or shut down). Anna Livia (talk) 11:24, 6 July 2022 (UTC)