Talk:Pro-life

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I read this article the other day that was fascinating, and might deserve a section in this article.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/2012/10/how-i-lost-faith-in-the-pro-life-movement.html

It'd be good to fact-check the numbers she uses, but it's a good article I think nonetheless. Anim (Carfa) 13:06, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

The question is

There is a separate argument for encouraging people to take suitable contraception/preventative methods (of whatever kind).

The question is - how many children will these pro-lifers adopt (particularly the severely disabled and those from rape etc) - and how much they will be prepared to pay for extra schools, housing, housing for abandoned children etc. 82.44.143.26 (talk) 18:43, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Nazism and abortion

The claim that Weimar abortion laws were very liberal is a severe overstatement. Weimer law criminalized all abortions although the constitutional court required an exception to save the mother`s life in 1927. Poland`s military dictatorship would legalize abortion for rape victims in the thirties while Chile`s military dictatorship allowed it for therapeutic reasons. The Netherlands only criminalized doctors who performed abortions and not women. Weimar law still punished both the women and the doctors and generally with jail time. Although the Nazis opposed abortion on healthy Aryan babies of healthy Aryan couples with healthy pregnancies, Martin Bormann refused to implement Himmler`s Reich Central Office for the Combating of Homosexuality and Abortion and such abortions still generally happened. This article fails to make clear that it were the Nazis who legalized abortion on disabled children, when one parent had a hereditary disease, Jews, Gypsies, and all the occupied Slavic territories and that the Nazis were even convicted for encouraging and compelling abortions and the Nuremberg trials.83.128.173.145 (talk) 07:02, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

Birth control and abortion were gradually being made more available during the Weimar period, and the nationalists were concerned about this, for birth rate reasons (something we still see today with white nationalists). Magnus Hirschfeld & crew were on the forefront of sex reform. See pages 127 through 129 here as well as page 375 onward. Readable there with a free account. Chillpilled (talk) 05:54, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

"My abortion is ethical" section

I have a problem with this one. It's way too easy to try to tar the entire movement based on some hypocritical individuals. I don't see much utility in this section unless we can demonstrate that these particular individuals are representative of the movement. As much as I despise the anti-abortion movement, this sort of section is really unfair and undermines other more sensible arguments. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 03:08, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

Relationship between the anti-abortion movement and white nationalism

https://beta.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/08/27/how-white-nationalists-aligned-themselves-with-antiabortion-movement/?outputType=amp

--It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 20:29, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

On Judith Jarvis Thomson's thought experiment

Judith Jarvis Thomson's experiment does nothing to answer the ethical question other than appeal to disgust and appeal to emotion in general. Sometimes, things that feel horrific and gross might actually be morally necessary to preserve someone else's life.