Talk:Rockefeller Republican

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Obama is a moderate now?[edit]

lol seriously? I can't take this wiki seriously, Im out100.37.123.26 (talk) 09:12, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

We'll miss you so very much.--Кřěĵ (ṫåɬк) 11:30, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Nixon's Not A Liberal/Rockefeller Republican[edit]

I'm taking Nixon out of the examples list. It feels absurd to still have to point this out in 2020, but Nixon was, by no definition, either the standards of the time or those of today, not a liberal. He didn't particularly focus on domestic policy, but to the extent that he did, it was in authoritarian, law-and-order, and federalist/states' rights directions, for example, proposing devolution of Medicaid to the states. The liberal policies he gets credit for, like the EPA, were passed by a Democratic-dominated Congress with super-majorities, and the Clean Water Act was specifically passed over his veto. It's an apparently unkillable line from leftier-than-thous trying to justify their undying hatred of the Democratic Party, but it's objectively false. -- (talk) 05:02, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

In the 1960s, in the GOP Goldwater was Right, Nixon the Center, and Rocky the Left. nobsFree Roger Stone! 06:42, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
And the term Rockefeller Republican always had a regional or Northeastern connotation to it, beginning with Mayor wp:Fiorello H. La Guardia and later Mayor John Lindsey. No one west or south of Pennsylvania was ever referred to as a "Rockefeller Republican" in Nelson Rockefeller's lifetime. And very few survived into the 1980s. nobsFree Roger Stone! 06:47, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
So these names are not associated with Rockefeller Republicanism: Percy and Anderson of Illinois, Dole of Kansas, nor Ford of Michigan. Think about it a minute...Why would a supposed Rockefeller Republican, Gerald Ford, choose as Vice President Nelson Rockefeller? A balanced ticket?
Rockefeller Republicans are strictly a regional phenomenon of Progressive Republican reformers in the face of corrupt Northeast Democratic big city machines. It has no nationwide ideological basis in the GOP. Rockefeller Republicans allowed honest New York and east coast Democrats to vote for reform in city hall and the civil service without upsetting public policy and social programs. There never was then, nor even today, such a nationwide movement in the Republican party. Richard Nixon and Donald Trump are the closest reformers to the core issues of Rockefeller Republicans that have occurred. Ronald Reagan appealed more to Southern voters than progressive Northeastern anti-corruption reformers that Rocky, Nixon, and Trump have appealed to.
It is entirely a myth, and complete misunderstanding of U.S. and Republican history to imagine Rockefeller Republicans ever constitutes any sort of nationwide movement. The Republican party outside the Northeast always viewed Rockefeller as an Illuminati conspirator because of his service in the New Deal. Dole and Ford certainly belong to that mainstream group of middle America that views Easterners with suspicion. nobsFree Roger Stone! 07:10, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

That big list and the edit war[edit]

@Hastur @IveBeenFrank In the interest of putting an end to the edit war concerning that big superfluous list of so-called Rockefeller Republicans, I suggest creating an article in the essay space for it. I think it would be much more appropriate as an essay, and it will give the anon contributor(s) a place to post. —cosmikdebris talk stalk 17:24, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Fine by me. It's just up to the weird BoN. I might theoretically agree to a subpage, too. But QC would be annoying given how long these lists get--Hastur! (talk) 17:32, 23 January 2021 (UTC)