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Sounds like nonsense to me[edit]

"A singularity has no dimensions because it contains all dimensions, and it also contains all the laws of physics"

Transhuman intelligence as magic[edit]

"this view of the singularity does treat transhuman intelligence as some kind of magic."

I'm wondering what the justification for that claim is? Not sure if it's well-reasoned but with no nuance or reasoning mentioned here, or just dismissive out of hand. Strong claims that we will absolutely see transhuman intelligence are arguably unjustified at this point, but speculating about it cautiously isn't predicated upon a belief it's magic. All that's required is a belief that it's plausible and that we can still discuss it substantively even without having any clue what technology would enable it. Doing so cautiously is very different from acting like it's inevitable magic. — Unsigned, by: / talk / contribs

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Magic could also be defined as “unexplainable” or “inexplicable”. If there is no plausible model or adequate explanation to establish the grounds to why such a thing is possible then in a real sense it’s sort of a magical proposition. That’s true of any speculative claim about advanced technology that isn’t currently possible. - Only Sort of Dumb (talk) 23:49, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

Another prediction[edit]

This Anna Livia (talk) 23:07, 24 October 2021 (UTC)


Equivalent fears probably existed in the past (and eg condemning writing as making people forgetful, teaching 'the working classes' to read and write will make them disinclined to do the work they have been assigned). Humans can adapt to varying degrees - and are more flexible in the environments in which they can live than 'the singularity' while 'the hive mind' is a thing that the singularity cannot belong to. Anna Livia (talk) 12:59, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

I'm much more worried about climate change and ecocide than AI and/or the forcible "upgrading" of humanity, whatever that may entail. Vee (talk) 14:04, 22 November 2022 (UTC)