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Mission?[edit]

How is this wall of text relevant? Zero (talk) 14:18, 17 March 2014 (UTC)


  • In accordance with your ideology/ideologue that is Equality for all ( I think it also includes a chance for all). Thus suggestion by way of nomination and hopes for recognition is the right of Iraqis/Shia facing sectarian aggression in a number of countries of the globe. Now it’s your turn to speak well for award because you hold more power being follower of Equality and Humanity as a politician of Modern Progressivism. Nannadeem (talk) 16:57, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
This is nothing like a RationalWiki mainspace article and should be deleted at once. Spud (talk) 17:35, 17 March 2014 (UTC)


  • No Mr. Simon (Spud), please see purpose of RW on its main page you would notice that: (a) Explorations of authoritarianism and fundamentalism (b) Analysis and criticism of how these subjects are handled in the media.
  • In line with the purpose of RW it has been attempted to highlight the remoteness from fundamentalism. Study of politics in region and disturbances being faced by the aggrieved sect whose sacred shrines are destroyed targeted killing is common. Instead the supreme leader does not use authoritarianism nor he attempts to establish a dictatorship. No call for revolution in order to safeguard fundamentalist’s ruling.
  • His humanitarianism and modern approaches has been returned awarding him flag of atheist.
  • Besides the topic of Nobel Prize and Award of Peace Prize warrants itself that the article be placed in keep and not delete.
    • I think considering the core aspects of authoritarianism and fundamentalism, it is best for Rational Wiki to give place to every group/unit of mankind irrespective of cast/race and religion or region. Article not only maintains the purpose of the RW rationally but also covers a hot topic. Nannadeem (talk) 20:27, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

In my search I noticed the talk page. I have to go through the Article. Of course article needs somewhat correction so as to be encyclopedic, but I think the editor is not native English origin so format and style can be done by experienced editors of rational wiki. I am a follower of Sistani, it is my pleasure to write down my comments chosen from an article taken from http://www.commdiginews.com/world-news/international-calls-for-nobel-peace-prize-to-be-awarded-to-grand-ayatollah-sistani-11912/

  1. In the decade since (the war in Iraq began), the Shia community has suffered the most appalling provocation. Most of the car bombs that have gone off in Baghdad over the years have been targeted at Shia neighbourhoods, killing thousands. Fundamentalist death squads regularly ambush Shia pilgrims as they head to Sistani’s city of Najaf, turning the annual holy festivals into a ritual slaughter. In 2006, al-Qaeda also bombed the Shia holy shrine at Samarra, an act roughly the equivalent to destroying St Peter’s Basilica…
  2. “…Yet throughout all this bloodshed, Sistani has beseeched ordinary Shias not to retaliate.” At the same time that the Telegraph was calling for Ayatollah Sistani to win the Nobel, so was a major Iranian newspaper, the Tehran Times, marking an unusual instant of agreement between Western and Iranian news media
  3. It’s hard to pinpoint when the first call for the Grand Ayatollah to win the prize was. In 2005, Pulitzer Prize winning reporter Thomas Friedman wrote an article entitled A Nobel for Sistani that said:

Mr. Sistani has also contributed three critical elements to the democracy movement in the wider Arab world. First, he built his legitimacy around not just his religious-scholarly credentials but around a politics focused on developing Iraq for Iraqis…

  1. The second thing that Mr. Sistani did was put the people and their aspirations at the center of Iraqi politics, not some narrow elite or self-appointed clergy …, which is what the Iraqi election was all about. In doing so he has helped to legitimize “people power” in a region where it was unheard of…
  2. Third, and maybe most important, Mr. Sistani brings to Arab politics a legitimate, pragmatic interpretation of Islam, one that says Islam should inform politics and the constitution, but clerics should not rule.

Thanks for your patience for reading my comments in — Unsigned, by: 59.103.201.237 / talk / contribs

Thank you for your input here. Please be aware that RationalWiki is not an encyclopedia. This article does not immediately clarify how its subject fits with the RationalWiki mission. I have difficulty seeing how it could be re-framed to do so. Sprocket J Cogswell (talk) 13:41, 18 March 2014 (UTC)


Reference comments at AfDs of this article. I deny the lobbying prospect. Purpose behind this article is simply a matter of writing/editing. I accept my weakness in English language; of course it is a foreign language for me. With regard to relevancy of this article to RW mission I re-iterate that:

The philosophy of sociology suggests that all religions are made for mankind and no mankind is made for religions so humanity is superior above all. This is the very question against fundamentalism.

I have written for a personality, who is luminous example of humanitarianism, and a wall of stone before extremist who are desirous of taking authority in the hand (authoritarianism). Then what is wrong or off mission. In fact it is close to mission. If I am wrong then everyone has power to edit the truth or rectify the wrong contents.

Nobel Prize, Peace Award, Muslim, Shia all are elements of Sociology, although beyond the scope of Periodic Table of Chemistry. However, I am submitting my rationality that Sociology is the end product of Physics. Whereas the main subject of Sociology is mankind, mankind is composed of Organic and in-Organic molecules/compounds. So please include the mankind in the Science subjects and give a place to my article. Acceptance of decision of RW is my responsibility and ethical obligation Nannadeem (talk) 21:43, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

This is off mission. NerdyWizardyou believed that why? 22:08, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

AFD[edit]

RationalWiki:Articles for deletion/Sistani Nomination & Peace Award-2014 Zero (talk) 13:36, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Who knows the pain of still born delivery. Nannadeem (talk) 18:31, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Deleted[edit]

Deleted per RationalWiki:Articles for deletion/Sistani Nomination & Peace Award-2014. SophieWilderModerator SophieWilderModerator 16:45, 20 March 2014 (UTC)