Talk:South Ossetia

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@Bongolian What do you think of this as a main space article? --Gender Fluid Beer (talk) 23:22, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

a little one sided[edit]

south ossetia had some degree of autonomy within the soviet union in the South Ossetian Autonomous Oblast. this region did not want to leave the soviet union when the rest of georgia did, and were concerned over georgian nationalism and georgians viewed the osao as an artificial creation of the soviets. upon georgia declaring independence, the georgian government dissolved the oblast as south ossetians feared. figures in the georgian government consider the south ossetians interlopers, newcomers squatting on georgian land. the georgian - ossetian conflict had been rumbling on since 1989, the 2008 war was only the last phase. both georgia and south ossetia have played fast and loose with human rights throughout this whole period.

Russia is not the only villain of the piece here. the russians have only become so since 2008 - putin's russia. it is only russian involvement in the 2008 that has us falling onto the georgian side, but we really should not. south ossetia have as much legitimate reason to want to breakaway from georgia, as georgia has is wanting to maintain its current borders. georgia could just as easily have allowed south ossetia some degree of autonomy and representation in the georgian government but they did not and refused anything along those lines and question whether south ossetians are really georgian at all. georgia is as much to blame for the current situation as the south ossetian or russians.

allusions to the war in ukraine are not appropriate. they are very different situations. not least russia has not tried to remove the georgian government and install a pro russian puppet, their involvement is limited to south ossetia and only south ossetia, nor does it view georgia as rightfully russian the way it views ukraine. if we want a ukraine comparison here its georgia viewing south ossetia the way russia views ukraine.

it means little for the south ossetian legitimacy that few in the un recognise them. nations are always loathe to recognise breakaway regions like this as legitimate nations. it gives too much precedent for would be breakaway regions in their own houses. lack of recognition at the un does not question a nations legitimacy as an independent nation, but merely brings into question its viability as an independent nation and if it can remain so indefinitely. south ossetians dont appear to want independence, but some form of autonomy. georgia refused this and russia may well oblige to grant this as a part of russia.

this is ultimately still fall out from the collapse of the soviet union. it is not though only the result of russian villainy and we should not present it as such AMassiveGay (talk) 13:37, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

@AMassiveGay With the current events of 2023, the comparison to the invasion of Ukraine to the separatist groups in Georgia is justified in my opinion. --Trans Fem Agenda 23:12, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
@Rationalzombie94 Why does Taiwan get the right to self-determination and not South Ossetia? Carthage (talk) 16:07, 8 October 2023 (UTC)