Talk:Stars are Souls

From RationalWiki
Jump to: navigation, search
Icon sociology.svg This article contains information about one or more living persons.

Articles about living people must be handled carefully, because they are more open to legal threats.
Reference any contentious allegations solidly; unreferenced allegations should be removed.
If legal threats are raised on this page, please direct the potential litigant to RationalWiki:Legal FAQ; do not interact with them.

Mike seems like a fun guy. Keep adding to the page, especially with sources. This shows potential. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 19:16, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

In reply to myself - before any editor gets all delete-y, I'm just going to inform everyone that I'm writing a pretty large entry for this article with lots of science and sources. It's still in preview mode, and it won't be a stub. This guy is yet another comedy crank goldmine.

Flat earth?[edit]

Highly unlikely anyone actually thinks the Earth is flat. Those claiming this online are an example of Poe's Law. Krom (talk) 20:02, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

Our own article on it signifies that this is not the case. And indeed they are examples of Poe's Law. And what does that law actually state? It states that we can't tell the difference between a genuine crank and a troll, not that they are trolls. And if this guy is trolling, he certainly is an unpopular, wierdly persistent troll who also hangs in conspiracy type circles on other places on the net: [1] [2] and who is also being defended by other cranks that fall under Poe's ([3]) with comments like "look at all the shills and retard trolls in this comment thread! so many brainless children that believe in fairy tails of life existing on giant spinning balls. the great scientists of modern time really did a good job of mind fucking you all :)" (Top comment [4]). He also clearly references young earth creationism and David Icke-inspired matrix concepts, while hilariously petitioning people in his videos. Don't tell me you're denying what is clearly mental illness. Or possibly the result of enjoying crystal meth during gestation?
I don't know, this guy almost sounds too stupid to be real without some catastrophic head injury. -EmeraldCityWanderer (talk) 20:21, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
His head is far enough up his ass to lick his teeth from the inside.--Arisboch ☞✍☜☞✉☜ 20:27, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
Did you guys actually watch his eating competition video? The one where the video is barely 480p but the saliva-crunch jaw movement audio is somehow in lossless THX? The "Galaxies don't exist - Part 1" video? If not, give it a minute (if you can handle that much) and just stand in AWE. After watching that entire video... my mind just blanked. I tried to come up with a joke, but... to quote JonTron, for the first time in my life I-I'm fucking speechless. I got nothing.. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 01:16, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
His videos don't match the titles. His video "dinosaurs don't exist" talks about geology/catastrophism vs. uniformitarianism etc. Also his talks don't actually present anything in regards to evidence for his claims. In the dinosaur video he starts talking about cookies. The guy looks like a poe or parody to me. Its also funny that he claims NASA/space exploration/technology is all fake, yet his Youtube photo is his $500 iPhone or whatever. So its not as if he doesn't trust modern technology, he's using it himself.Krom (talk) 13:32, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
Or he's just a fucking hypocrites, that kinda stuff is common among fanatics (e.g. when I was wandering through an ultra-othrodox neighborhood in Jerusalem, I saw a poster about how computers and the Internet were SOOOOOOoooo evil, but the poster looked, as if it was made with modern Desktop Publishing software!).--Arisboch ☞✍☜☞✉☜ 13:42, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
I couldn't stand to watch more than a little of his videos between the rambling and the eating. I get angry just watching them waiting for him to get a point, which must drive people who believe this crap absolutely insane. I have a hard time knowing people watch his videos outside of laughing at him. -EmeraldCityWanderer (talk) 13:55, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
@Krom Of course he's a Poe - again, Poe means there's no way to discern parody from actual fringe lunacy. We just can't tell, which is Poe. If Poe meant "people who COULD be passed of as parodies ARE parodies", then there'd be no need for RW (but maybe some kind of humorpedia to list all the people we do?).
@EmeraldCityWanderer The insane part is, literally read many of his comments, watch the videos he's favorited, etc. These guys are for real. Just reading the comments, people even adviced him to "check out project blue beam" (lmfao). And regarding his expensive phone and posing like a Boondocks character - I think you guys fail to understand the full nature of stupidity. This guy isn't even aware that he's hypcritical, and if so, he doesn't even agree. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 14:15, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
(EC)@Reverend Black Percy - I am not sure I even want to understand more fully because if I think about it too long it might actually cause brain damage. Insanity and disabilities I can grasp, but this is almost too stupid to live. It's like watching something that gets in your head and eventually causes a stroke because your brain can't cope. Like from Lewis Black's "If it wasn't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college" that bounces around till they find you dead of a stroke. -EmeraldCityWanderer (talk) 14:31, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
(RBP)@EmeraldCityWanderer Yeah, I hear ya. It literally saps all your energy. Here's what I suggest - watch this entire 6 minute clip from start to finish. It'll energise you instead of drain you, AND it literally covers their topics as they cover them: Reverend Black Percy (talk) 14:36, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, will do later today. Will need to pick up some sort of "courage" to not blow a vessel first! -EmeraldCityWanderer (talk) 19:23, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
The lack of crunching chips was like music to my ears... -EmeraldCityWanderer (talk) 02:09, 12 August 2015 (UTC) So how does he explain this? He could also do this himself. Just attach a camera to a weather balloon. In the video, the camera reaches almost 20 miles above ground and shows the Earth is clearly not flat, but curved. I do not think anyone that watches this can say it is fake. Are there any genuine flat earthers? Only possibly people that don't use/trust modern technology, perhaps a remote tribe in the Amazon rainforest. But these "flat earthers" on the internet are just doing it for comedy, or for attention. Its now a popular troll theme, especially on youtube. Krom (talk) 14:16, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Well, aside from the point that he's written an entire book allegedly filled with experiments that prove a flat earth (also revealing his last name, or pen name, to be Mike Stars), he's published this 80 minute "documentary". If you really want an answer to your question, I'd literally suggest that you watch this whole thing. Probably with a glass of scotch handy. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 14:28, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
And here's another "documentary" from some other guy, an hour long: - search on YouTube and you'll get like 40 hours of material. Jesus. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 14:30, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
Honestly. Open this link, browse down in it, notice the lengths of the videos and what the descriptions say. Have your faith in humanity shattered. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 14:32, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
"Highly unlikely anyone actually thinks the Earth is flat." You realize that The Flat Earth Society existed before the internet, yes? I say this because it sounds like you made this statement based on internet troll postings. Also, there are more than enough examples of really moronic, schizophrenic individuals to make the odds that someone truly believe the Earth is flat to be statistically likely. I mean, there are how many billions that believe in a magic sky dude? Not sure why there wouldn't be people who believe the Earth is flat. InfinitelySingular (talk) 15:10, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
Basically, it stands to reason that Krom is in fact a pseudosceptic, an agent provocateur and a shill. ...And so, Kromgate begins. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 16:01, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
He might not be so dumb after all. He's charging $8.99 for his ebook on Amazon, and plenty of people have already bought it. He's probably laughing. I also noticed he doesn't publish by his real name. That's suspicious if he really believed what he was saying.Krom (talk) 02:22, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
I don't think Mike Stars is his real name. "Stars" he has just used because he talks about them (apparently he thinks they are small, the size of cars or something... yea its hard to take anything he says serious). And he's using a fake name probably because he would be embarrassed if his real name was connected to the nonsense he has made money from. Krom (talk) 02:33, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
I don't know guys it' seems like you're just joking around about him and not seriously refuting him. In my opinion he actually makes sense. He may not have definite proof but he and his followers have a lot of solid evidence. I'm a long-time atheist and skeptic, don't get me wrong. I mean it's so obvious the earth is flat and one of the most celebrated and examined scientists was wrong and every single actual scientist since him has failed to see that. It's clear as day this new age hippie is a groundbreaking force of knowledge and reason. Why can't you see that, you close minded skeptics? Kosterortiizbrock (The WhiteKnight Mangina) (talk) 02:45, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
@Kosterortiizbrock - And let's not forget the evidence presented in the documentary, The Crimson Permanent Assurance. Abolute proof! InfinitelySingular (talk) 12:10, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
@Krom "plenty of people"? His text pamphlet is at #220,419 in Books on Amazon, and his picture pamphlet is at #469,006 Paid in Kindle Store, and they're both published via's "We'll sell your insane PDF rant that has ClipArt in it"-platform - and his royalties are just about 97 cents per sold pamphlet! And he's even on Google plus with a picture of himself. It's not like he fears being connected with his pen name outside of the crank-o-sphere, if it IS a pen name (atleast his first name IS Mike). Working a minimum wage job for a week earns you more dough than all his book sales combined. Never mind the time he's wasted on doing all this crap (loss of income). He could play CS:GO and sell knife skins and earn more. And while the motive for any sale of stuff is to earn cash, it's not the operative concept here by any stretch of the imagination. He even dedicates his damn books to the creator, the mission of whom he thinks he's serving by blocking the NWO. And if you look inside the books (you can do that on the Amazon page), he even refutes your stupid agent provocateur Bilderberg "send up a camera by balloon experiment" and proves it's a shill tactic by soul eating djinns. Seriously, read the book until you FEEL the retardation setting in. Best of wishes my friend. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 03:01, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Debunking the moonlight test[edit]

Cmbisme (talk) 13:09, 29 August 2015 (UTC)This is the comment I just left him on his YouTube video:

I see where you are going wrong here. First you are pointing the thermometer at the ground where it's warmer and then in the moonlight you are pointing it in the air at getting a lower temperature. This is because the ground absorbs the heat of the sun and releases it slowly. The extra heat is coming from the ground whilst the wind is cooling the thermometer (it's an effect of the wind chill factor) for the measurements in the moonlight (reflected light from the Sun) are taken further from the ground.

As for the bits of metal in the ground 80.1, 79.9 degrees is just 80 degrees +/- 0.1 degrees which is well within the error limits of such a device and 80.4 and 80.6 degrees is just 80.5 degrees +/- 0.1 degrees. The rest of the variations are because you keep moving the metal to the same patches of sand that are different temperatures, you are transferring some of the heat between you and the metal and the thermometer you are measuring with is not a highly accurate precision instrument, as evidenced by the fact that you keep getting wildly different readings in consecutive measurements of the same object in the same location in some cases. As for the measurements of the metal in your second round of tests there is no way to tell from your video exactly how long each of the bits of metal were .sitting on the concrete being warmed by the Sun which makes the entire set of tests invalid.

Your first measurement of both pieces of metal were 81.8 +/- 0.1 degrees (basically the same temperature), The average of your last 4 measurements for the moonlight was 83.2 degrees and for the last 5 measurements for the shade was 83.5 degrees which is a negligible difference. If you average all of the readings they are 82.8 and 83.5 degrees for the moonlight and shade respectively, which is only a 0.7 degree difference (*/-0.35 degrees). If you subtract the lowest reading from the highest reading and divide by 4 you get a rough estimate of the standard deviation which is 0.40 and 0.57 for the moonlight and shade respectively.This means that statistically they are at the same temperature, within one standard deviation Therefore your hypothesis of the moonlight having a cooling effect must be rejected.

Wow, well written! Would you mind reworking this exact portion into a sub-section, like the one on Galaxies Don't Exist, that provide this kind of scientific step-by-step rebuttal of his... whatever it is, performance art? Mike's ravings are like below pseudoscience, he barely bothers to make them look even kinda sorta sciencey. If you don't reply, I'll do it anyways, but it'd be tubular if you could provide maybe a reworked version of this yourself (as you wrote it and all). Nice, anyways. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 21:19, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

In a nutshell (with emphasis on the nut)[edit]

In his video he states how he was in some guy's back yard dressed in black and shining a torch into his neighbors child's bedroom window every night, creepy. I think he needs to goo on a register somewhere.Cmbisme (talk) 13:14, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

He does this every night, with your son. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 21:19, 31 August 2015 (UTC)


Would a reading of Whipping Star have been a contributing factor in this construct? (talk) 10:32, 16 July 2017 (UTC)