Talk:Third Wave

Again, I find the experiment less than terrifying. Adolescents are conformists? You don't say!? Everything the students were led to do seems relatively innocuous. The actual objectionable features of fascism -- the violence, the bigotry, the othering -- were not present in the experiment in any discernible way. They couldn't hardly be in a high school; the introduction of objectionable ideology would be noticed, while a disciplined classroom is just the work of a strict teacher of the sort many parents would have applauded. Most high school students in the USA would probably benefit from a teacher who made them sit up straight, pay attention, and help one another. Far worse versions of the same thing are done at military basic training, yet democracy still survives. In fact, the US military strikes me as one of the least racist institutions in the USA, and the cohesion, solidarity, and ritual order forced on the troops probably has something to do with it. - Smerdis of Tlön, ^{LOAD "*", 8, 1.} 20:35, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm a little baffled by "just like Nazi Germany, that excelling came at a price that nobody should ever pay." From the article, the "price" was...following some harmless rituals? This seems more like an example of Godwin's Law in action, "The Nazis engineered a sense of community among followers, therefore if I can engineer a sense of community among a group of followers, they are Nazis." Nog Bogmire (talk) 23:19, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

RW is a mobocracy. If you guys don't like it, then edit it. —(((вιgℓʝвιgℓ))) (ᴛᴀʟᴋ/sᴛᴀʟᴋ) 01:06, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Sure, but the article's assertions have no real basis in fact, and we need to be skeptical of the tendency for self-aggrandisement when our primary source is the guy's own account of his fairly unscientific test. Jones credits himself with proving associations he never even tested, and his "proof" is more like demonstrating how a fairly benign religion grows than proving how violent and destructive ideologies spread. Nog Bogmire (talk) 01:33, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Can you explain how to do this in more detail ?

Asking for a friend of course. 2601:CA:8200:34A:34ED:B2AF:8894:54AE (talk) 12:14, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

ye this is early neo-Nazi cult building. ur friend can read Mien Kampf and learn more about being a Nazi from related literature. EK (talk) 16:34, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Replication and comparison

Have there been attempts to replicate it? Or could there be a comparison with other studies of conformity (others, such as Milgram's, have been subsequently criticised as misleading due e.g. to self-selecting sample, lack of realism[1]). --Annanoon (talk) 11:02, 24 October 2019 (UTC)