Talk:Tower of Babel

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Misconstrued meaning of the word 'heaven'[edit]

The Hebrew word used in Genesis 11:4 is 'Shamayim' meaning, literally, 'heavens' (i.e. the various spheres). The word for 'Heaven' (Adonai's throne) is 'Eden'. Thus, the argument is irrelevant because man cannot physically enter Heaven unless God ordains it. Nowhere in Scripture do we see that the Babel tower accomplished such a feat, so, to sarcastically state the fabricated accomplishment as irony is irony, itself.— Unsigned, by: Ronit94 / talk / contribs

A positive story?[edit]

I wonder if any religious people have ever taken the moral of this story to be that with mankind united, they can challenge even God.

Of course not, but that's certainly a valid interpretation.— Unsigned, by: / talk

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The Ziggurat builder[edit]

Assuming that ziggurats and the 'local explanations' given above are part of the basis of the story.

Can you not just hear the 'I will have a ziggurat built, a big, beautiful ziggurat' in a Trump voice? Anna Livia (talk) 10:29, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

On the Benevolence of God[edit]

So, there are some fairly snide remarks in the article about God contravening his alleged benevolence in the Old Testament, but doesn't that neglect the fact that the OT God doesn't claim to be wholly benevolent? For example Exodus 34:14 - "For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God." They're pretty explicit about their God having negative qualities in the early books.

That idea that the Abrahamic God considers itself wholly benevolent is a pretty modern construct, and almost exclusively a Christian/Muslim one. Even Medieval theologians were still arguing about it. Really it seems like the author of the page is just trying to take cheap shots at theists with a fairly silly misapprehension of the Bible, which doesn't really help make their argument. I'm not sure how to take that out and still explain the content that section goes into, however, so I didn't change it myself. — Unsigned, by: / talk / contribs

The Christian god is often presented as being benevolent. But you are quite right that he was a murderously vicious chap in the OT. See Examples of God personally killing people. Bob"Life is short and (insert adjective)" 19:23, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

An alternative take[edit]

Go to "Not Video Game-Related" and look for the Tower (and that being TVTropes, be careful). --Panzerfaust (talk) 13:30, 27 March 2018 (UTC)