Talk:Transmisogyny

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Section merge suggestion

In my outsider read, there are two pairs of sections that seem to be duplicative. Assumption of male privilege seems to include Gender presentation in that both seem to relate to patriarchy and assumed default male behavior. Hypersexualization and desexualization and Media representation read like one and a half aspects of the same point. I'd just merge them (without deleting points), but I'm not knowledgeable enough to believe I'm understanding the true point beneath these. MarmotHead (talk) 15:41, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

They are not duplicative even though they are all somewhat related to the fact trans women are not seen as real women by society at large. --Laurelai (talk) 16:26, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

OK. Thanks! That guides me down the harder road of addressing my ignorance. If I lose enough ignorance, feel free to re-factualize my subsequent edits! MarmotHead (talk) 16:44, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Americans.

With all this sort of thing, I is more than clear that Americans are only concerned with trivialities. ^{— Unsigned, by: 201.255.99.136 / talk} 20:28, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

I agree; it's ridiculous that people get so freaked out about what genitals another person has. --Ymir (talk) 21:32, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

Transmisandry?

Should transmisandry be a section or another article? 125.209.145.246 (talk) 12:05, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Not heard of transmisandry, but there's no reason to think it would never happen. If you've come across any, write it into this article as a new section, unless you find enough to merit a whole article (we're in an anti-stubs mood at the moment). Also a redirect to the section would be good. 85.234.65.51 (talk) 14:31, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Sources/references

Reference 7 is a blog post citing one woman’s anecdotal experience (not a credible source) and reference 8 is just an image. Please add actual credible sources instead. --Nucu (talk) 20:39, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Filing that under nice to have but no time to do now. ikanreed ^{🐐Bleat at me} 21:51, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Rape Culture

This section contains a large number of claims including what seem to be some fairly flagrant weasel words ("while being assumed by society as rapists by default" - I assume that's a direct quote from 'society'). Claims like these require some kind of substantiation beyond mere assertion, and including citations that support them would seem likely to improve the quality of this paragraph. ^{— Unsigned, by: 73.95.30.92 / talk / contribs}

Seems reasonable. I changed it to read: "...while most of society assumes they are rapists by default." FairDinkum (talk) 09:30, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

Wage gap

Some findings of interest.

"Before That Sex Change, Think About Your Next Paycheck", New York Times (2008). "The study found that earnings for male-to-female transgender workers fell by nearly one-third after their gender transitions, but earnings for female-to-male transgender workers increased slightly." (The paper.)

Full-time trans workers face a wage gap, poll finds", The 19th News (2022). "The HRC found that trans men and nonbinary or gender-nonconforming people earn 70 cents for every dollar the typical worker earns, while trans women earn 60 cents to that dollar, based on responses from roughly 6,800 LGBTQ+ workers last spring."

Beyond implications for understanding anti-trans discrimination and transmisogyny, the former study does a lot to demonstrate the wage gap as a real thing in general since it's literally the same person before-and-after, although, I suppose it ain't called a transition for nothing. Chillpilled (talk) 05:05, 15 March 2024 (UTC)