Talk:Transsexual.org

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Sources

You have no idea how much I'd like to abide wiki etiquette and cite sources but that's kinda hard to do when /* on the website is inaccessible.catb0t^{(Totally Not A Bot!)} 03:54, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Worse

Now it doesn't just refuse to load, it entirely redirects me to my cable provider lol. They wiped their domain. I wonder if this article had anything to do with it. Kosterortiizbrock (talk) 03:57, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Is this bad luck for a first shot at article writing? (also: transsexual.org on isup.me)

I tried that already, they probably saw this article when searching for their site. I have only written one article (or rather started it) and it was only the grassroots so what would I know. Nobody else was acting on it at all despite all the votes. Kosterortiizbrock (talk) 04:11, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Unlikely; Google takes probs 24hr to crawl. And they probs don't care. 32℉uzzy; 0℃atPotato (talk/stalk) 04:24, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Use the web archive. αδελφός ΓυζζγςατΡοτατο (talk/stalk) 04:21, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Haha..ha..agreed..but can you clarify more? May sound a little stupid and awkward, but I'm not getting the lexicon. TipuSultanInDisguise (talk) 04:26, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Unlikely; Google usually takes 24 hours to add new webpages to its results, which is likely the only way that transexual.org would find out about this article. Besides, transexual.org probably doesn't give two shits about what some wiki says. Fuzzy. Cat. Potato! (talk/stalk) 04:35, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

I agree on all statements except the closing one- this wiki has thousands of unique visitors every 5 months. It is also a thorough criticism so I was reckoning it would be more impacting. TipuSultanInDisguise (talk) 04:44, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Is there a compelling argument against the use of archive.org? is it on mission for RW to have an article on something that doesn't exist?catb0t^{(Totally Not A Bot!)} 04:58, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Please sign your username! Anyway, I'm not too sure but isn't Archive.com as a domain being sold right now? This is a complex issue- is there any reliable mention of the website outside of the now down site? TipuSultanInaVeryConvincingDisguise (talk) 04:59, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Up!

Welp, http://transsexual.org is up again! catb0t^{(Totally Not A Bot!)} 15:12, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Calls "transsexuality" [sic] a "birth defect," like some sort of mental disability, rather than a neurological peculiarty.

Actually, they probably mean it's a physical birth defect, because the genitals are the wrong ones etc. 142.124.55.236 (talk) 19:49, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Jennifer's fanfiction

Oh boy...Jennifer's fanfiction should at least be mentioned because it is a large part of her infamy online, especially in MLP. Just a link to her account with a warning about how misanthropic her work is. 75.38.196.210 (talk) 23:07, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

And I play video games in my spare time. However, playing video games is not related to political views, nor is weird fan-fiction. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 16:24, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

We ain't celebrity gossip. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 04:25, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

One not so crazy concept

This one statement in the article: "It even gives tips on how to cheat on psychology tests for sex reassignment surgery, something no sane person, transgender or otherwise, would ever recommend or seriously consider." Actually, that's the least crazy thing on the website. It's pretty mainstream (sadly, still) in trans communities that it's acceptable to lie to psychologist as necessary. Psychologists can have some pretty idiosyncratic beliefs and criteria on who qualifies, for example see autogynephilia. Sex-focused and otherwise stereeotyping. What's the right answer to, for example, "Tell me your sexual fantasies."[1], when wrong answers means no healthcare and no legal existence for another few years? It's not exactly "something no sane person [...] would ever recommend or seriously consider" to want to know how to answer that for the least amount of trouble. Looi (talk) 17:55, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

Agreed. This isn't crazy at all, just sad reality. --81.2.103.240 (talk) 23:44, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Lying to docs to make them believe you perfectly fit the heterosexual, gender-conforming, and otherwise conventional narrative of a trans person was bog standard for decades. This is a big reason many clinics just simply moved to an informed consent model (or I assume this was a reason anyway — it would've been a pretty good one). Chillpilled (talk) 22:34, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

I've reformed the article a bit. The thing about IQ/intelligence is strangely enough based in real (though rather old, although the transsexual.org site itself seems pretty old) data, it's just that it was probably subject to a sampling bias, so I've noted it. The thing about trans people having more creativity is, even more strangely, quite plausible in my finding. That's given what we know about the link between creativity and mental illness; being trans is not a mental illness, but due in large part to social stigma (and poverty, etc.), it's somewhat more common among trans people. There has been a bit written more generally about how oppressed groups somehow end up driving innovations in culture forward (see: the influence of black and/or LGBT artists in pretty much every single music genre), and I would speculate that minority stress is a factor in that. Though alternatively, it could simply be that minority-produced art becomes popular because of people's want to side with underdogs. But your average gay, trans, black, etc. person is not an artist in any case. Chillpilled (talk) 23:16, 25 November 2023 (UTC)