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  • Believe Me, It's Torture - article by Christopher Hitchens - Recommended read, possibly should be pushed harder in the article. ħumanUser talk:Human 06:10, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
This might say a lot about me, but I've always wanted to be waterboarded, just to see what all the fuss is about. --PitchBlackMind 06:36, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
I suspect it is similar to the gangster movie trope of sticking someone's head in a toilet and repeatedly flushing it. They "might" be able to breathe, but it's hard for them to tell when to do so, and there'e also water going "up" their nose all the time. I also suspect it really sucks, and I wouldn't advise experimentation without a doctor present. ħumanUser talk:Human 00:03, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
The phrase " torture, a method of interrogation that experts agree is not useful" reminds me of an article I read that referred to World War II where the British refused to torture Nazi prisioners - an order from Churchill personally- precisely because it was ineffective and the stakes were so high. It referrenced an account of someone being dismissed from the facility for just striking a prisoner in frustration. I can't for the life of me remember where I read it, it may be linked to from RW elsewhere, but it'd make a damn good reference and makes quite good reading. Scarlet A.pnggnostic 01:15, 22 June 2009 (UTC)


Is it too snarky and maybe not treating torture seriously enough to add something about Baptism/Christening? Scarlet A.pnggnostic 00:07, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

In case it wasn't obvious (:S), it's throwing water over someone's head. Scarlet A.pnggnostic 00:10, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
If you are going to do it, it had better be very funny. But I suspect we'd be better off without it. Some forms of baptism vary of course - from the gentle anointing of the forehead with a dab of holy magic water, to the full body dunkings as dramatized in that Coen Bros. film about brothers and art. ħumanUser talk:Human 00:33, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
It's not so much funny, I just went to a Christening a few days ago and described it as an old man waterboarding a small child. I may have been drunk, it was funny-ish at the time. Scarlet A.pnggnostic 00:46, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
It's funny now and I haven't even been drinking. --PitchBlackMind 00:55, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
I think when they dunk babies they at least try to pinch of the nose to lessen the freakout. And yeah, it's funny, but perhaps simply having the joke here is enough? Now, if we had a good photo of a baptism we could use it... naw. Put it here though! ħumanUser talk:Human 01:01, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
It's a single line joke really, integrated into a caption, yeah. I'll look into it. Scarlet A.pnggnostic 01:03, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Try this on. ħumanUser talk:Human 01:04, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Or get permission to use this. ħumanUser talk:Human 01:06, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Or this. I would go with "Jesus-army-baptism.jpg" myself as it looks much more like an actual drowning. Mjollnir.svgListenerXTalkerX 01:46, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Fact tag soup[edit]

There's a lot of stuff on here that requires refs. Practically every sentence in the history section needs it. Scarlet A.pnggnostic 01:37, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Water Cure vs. Water Board[edit]

I'm totally new to Wiki editing, so I didn't try changing anything, but the second image ( shows "the water cure," not waterboarding. I suppose an incorrectly performed water cure is similar to waterboarding, but typically it's far worse, if that were possible (not to suggest that waterboarding is OK, or that it's not torture, just that a lot more people tend to survive waterboarding). — Unsigned, by: / talk / contribs (signed by bot) 06:24, 01 September 2011 (UTC)