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We are on RW 3.0. Rule of thumb, don't edit debates that haven't been active for a while. Cheers.

ТyTalk.00:27, 10 March 2011

Also, you can edit pages if you feel like it. This is a wiki, if your edits are crap I have teh magic rollback button.

ТyTalk.17:50, 10 March 2011

Same with you (rolls eyes).

Colbert|FanSome people do stuff17:54, 10 March 2011

Just don't be like this guy and I'm sure everything will work out just fine.

ТyTalk.17:57, 10 March 2011


ТyTalk.19:33, 10 March 2011

Yes, the Confederacy was founded over states' rights and NOT racism.

Colbert|FanSome people do stuff19:35, 10 March 2011

Before this gets out of hand, I need to at least try to adjust your goat levels.

Hopefully this works, or I will be forced to demolish your fervently held beliefs using facts, which takes longer.

Blue Talk19:45, 10 March 2011

The Confederates' formal reason for secession was to preserve states' rights, but by far the biggest reason they wanted the states' rights was to preserve slavery.

Mjollnir.svgListenerXTalkerX20:09, 10 March 2011

I am saying the CSA, the government and country was not racist. I know that most Confederates were racist, but so was most Northerners.

Also, Dishonest Abe didn't care about slavery.

Colbert|FanSome people do stuff21:03, 10 March 2011

All right, what author passes for an "historian" in your school, some neo-Confederate whitewasher or Howard Zinn?

We have a quote addressed to people who believe that slavery was not the cornerstone of the Confederacy. You might also have a look at the Confederate Constitution, article I, section 9, paragraph 4.

Mjollnir.svgListenerXTalkerX21:24, 10 March 2011

Yeah, it was about states' rights to protect slave owners rights. "All right, what author passes for an "historian" in your school..." Thomas DiLorenzo, no doubt.

Nebuchadnezzar (talk)21:44, 10 March 2011

Zinn is a bona fide historian, LX, however much you disagree with him. He is a revisionist, not a negationist or a denialist.

Blue Talk22:09, 10 March 2011

In some cases, he is. But the above was merely a reference to his belief that Lincoln cared little about slavery.

Mjollnir.svgListenerXTalkerX22:23, 10 March 2011