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Just don't be like this guy and I'm sure everything will work out just fine.

ТyTalk.17:57, 10 March 2011
ТyTalk.19:33, 10 March 2011

Yes, the Confederacy was founded over states' rights and NOT racism.

Before this gets out of hand, I need to at least try to adjust your goat levels.

Hopefully this works, or I will be forced to demolish your fervently held beliefs using facts, which takes longer.

Blue (is useful)19:45, 10 March 2011

The Confederates' formal reason for secession was to preserve states' rights, but by far the biggest reason they wanted the states' rights was to preserve slavery.

Mjollnir.svgListenerXTalkerX20:09, 10 March 2011

I am saying the CSA, the government and country was not racist. I know that most Confederates were racist, but so was most Northerners.

Also, Dishonest Abe didn't care about slavery.

All right, what author passes for an "historian" in your school, some neo-Confederate whitewasher or Howard Zinn?

We have a quote addressed to people who believe that slavery was not the cornerstone of the Confederacy. You might also have a look at the Confederate Constitution, article I, section 9, paragraph 4.

Mjollnir.svgListenerXTalkerX21:24, 10 March 2011

Yeah, it was about states' rights to protect slave owners rights. "All right, what author passes for an "historian" in your school..." Thomas DiLorenzo, no doubt.

Nebuchadnezzar (talk)21:44, 10 March 2011
 

Zinn is a bona fide historian, LX, however much you disagree with him. He is a revisionist, not a negationist or a denialist.

Blue (is useful)22:09, 10 March 2011

In some cases, he is. But the above was merely a reference to his belief that Lincoln cared little about slavery.

Mjollnir.svgListenerXTalkerX22:23, 10 March 2011