Why was my article deleted?

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Yes, it's inviting a frivolous lawsuit.

It's also not other editors jobs to do the leg work to ensure that the edits of another editor are legal.

And it's not that you've found something that I am not able to be pedantic about, but rather something that I don't want to exert the effort into because it's entirely off-topic.

If you want to have a discussion about estoppel, feel free to start a new topic on my talk page, and we can discuss it at length there.

Eira OMTG! The Goat be Praised.12:22, 19 May 2011

No evidence provided for assertion.

It's not that much work.

(((Zack Martin)))12:23, 19 May 2011

I didn't think it were necessary to point out that copying text from another person's wiki invites a frivolous lawsuit.

If it's not much work, then the original editor could have done it before hand.

Eira OMTG! The Goat be Praised.12:36, 19 May 2011
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Last edit: 13:24, 19 May 2011

Jesus fuck. Just use the WP version like I said at 12:19 on May 17 so we can avoid even having to talk to Andy Schlafly. The CP license is a legal calamity because it purports to permit Andy Schlafy to unilaterally decide he's going to ask for material to be taken down for "self defense." He's sent a small handful of DMCA takedown requests over the years and while this isn't an instance of use that would favor him much, I don't understand how this discussion got so long. We use CC by SA 3.0 just like WP. With limited exceptions, it requires all material here to be CC by SA compatible. The same licensing scheme means we can use anything from any other CC by SA project and vice versa as long as the terms of the license are followed. CPs license isn't consistent with CC by SA at least because it purports to permit this capricious determination of "self defense" as a justification for demanding the removal of ostensibly licensed material. Thus, unless he agrees to relicense the material under CC by SA, permission is irrelevant since some other CC by SA project wouldn't necessarily be entitled to reuse the material under the CC by SA license. CC by SA isn't revokable under any circumstances like "self defense." It also more clearly maintains the full extent of the original author's copyright in licensed material. Not so clear Schlafly's shit stain of a license does that nor is it any more clear that an assignment wouldn't have some legal effect. Whether or not US copyright law requires copyright assignments to be in writing, every state and every other country has its own copyright regime and it's not worth wasting time discussing whether Andy's shitty license is an assignment under some other jurisdiction's law or not. I'm not prepared to accept CPs choice of law provision at face value without doing sone legal research. And I'm not going to do that research because this is fucking boring and I've got better things to do like make money and chase sweet sweet tail. So there's yet another layer of legal research made unnecessary by sloth and the elegant CC by SA licensing scheme. In closing, each of you should be out getting drunk and prowling for ass instead of wasting your time in this discussion. Short answer: don't reuse material submitted to CP except for strong cases of fair use for commentary or parody. Just go get the WP version that's compatible with our license.

Nutty Roux (talk)13:13, 19 May 2011

You know, it's funny people making such a fuss about someone copying text they themselves wrote from CP, when Capturebot is filling this site up with image snapshots of it. It is fair use, but there are limits to fair use, and one of them is the extent of the copying. The extent of the copying by Capturebot is enormous, which calls the fair use status of it into question.

If Andy was going to sue or DCMA this site, why would he bother about Andries' article where he would be on very shaky legal grounds in doing so? Why wouldn't he just go after everything Capturebot has uploaded, he would be on much firmer legal ground there?

Yet I don't see all this fussing about the real legal problems of Capturebot, just the imagined legal problems of Andries' article.

(((Zack Martin)))13:20, 19 May 2011

Don't change the subject, not that I'm at all happy about having to talk with you. This has very little to do with copyright, to the extent CP even has copyright in any material on that site. I have no idea and as I said i don't care.

We can't use material submitted to CP because it's incompatible with our licensing scheme.

Go outside.

Nutty Roux (talk)13:34, 19 May 2011

"This has very little to do with copyright".... "it's incompatible with our licensing scheme".

Don't you understand, that all licensing schemes are based on copyright ???!!!

(((Zack Martin)))13:37, 19 May 2011

Some licensing schemes are based around patents.

Seriously, just let this go...

Eira OMTG! The Goat be Praised.13:42, 19 May 2011

Obviously I am talking about the one's relevant to Wikis, so your point is irrelevant.

(((Zack Martin)))13:44, 19 May 2011

Well, just in case, I'll let you know that when you're arguing with Nutty Roux, you actually are arguing with a lawyer.

So... like... buzz off.

Eira OMTG! The Goat be Praised.13:45, 19 May 2011

Wow... a lawyer? I for one would never hire him.

(((Zack Martin)))13:47, 19 May 2011

I am sure he is deeply worried to have lost your respect.

NDSP13:53, 19 May 2011
 
 
 
 

God you're fucking thick. I'm finished talking with you now that I see you didn't actually read my posts but still want to endlessly yammer on. Go read the several posts I've already made here. They address your urgent JAQing off.

Nutty Roux (talk)13:45, 19 May 2011