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This user may experience moments of lucidity,
but don't count on it.

Magic 8 ball not fun enough for you?[edit]

In the mood to bash on some creationist but none are around? Well I have your answer come play with CreationBot v1.0.

Update his pratts at CreationBotPratt

Free Will reply to Bohdan[edit]

Well I am a materialist and a reductionist so I believe everything comes from basic physical interactions, including thought and behavior choice. The question for me is if there is a predictive causal chain between the materialistic components of action choice and the corresponding choice itself, or is there something along the path that adds an indeterministic element into the equation. The best bets for the ladder option are a)quantum mechanics and b) emergent properties. Everything I have looked at and read points to the fact that quantum effects probably play no role in the way the brain functions, so I set little stalk in that. The second option is more interesting, the idea that while the end result is caused by the base components it has properties that can not be attributed to just the base components. Essentially the ideas of emergent properties and self organizing systems. There MIGHT be a place in there for something analogous to free will but I remain skeptical. So I am leaning towards complete biological determinism but with a little wiggle room, but regardless I do not believe in a mind that is separate from the body so its just meat controlling meat for me. tmtoulouse pester 12:54, 11 August 2007 (CDT)

Hey, do we have a functioning "debate" space? It would be fun to take this there, and mostly let everyone who wants write their own section. humanbe in 19:02, 11 August 2007 (CDT)
As far as I know the debate namespace functions, we just never really seem to use it. tmtoulouse pester 19:03, 11 August 2007 (CDT)
Maybe we should rename it "discussion", since we debate everywhere else... humanbe in 12:36, 12 August 2007 (CDT)
Perhaps...but after yesterdays 12 hour binge of editing the php files for the site and installing extensions I swore that today I would not even touch a file on the sever that wasn't directly editable through the wiki. Maybe next week ;). tmtoulouse pester 12:39, 12 August 2007 (CDT)

Teaching granny to suck eggs?[edit]

(you don't need the weight in the options ifn they alla same) Keep« purring » 23:28, 11 August 2007 (CDT)

Thanks, yea, I am just cutting and pasting the code around mostly, who knows I might want to change them eventually! tmtoulouse pester 23:36, 11 August 2007 (CDT)

RationalWiki:Privacy policy‎[edit]

Isn't it a little odd not to have this page? Bohdan 23:58, 11 August 2007 (CDT)

Well as currently written yes. tmtoulouse pester 23:57, 11 August 2007 (CDT)
So, you don't like my creation? Bohdan 23:58, 11 August 2007 (CDT)
Just a strange way to go about it. But I am in no hurry to worry about it. I am instead far to vested in making new toys. tmtoulouse pester 23:59, 11 August 2007 (CDT)
Your just a black hole, you former CP sysop. Bohdan 00:01, 12 August 2007 (CDT)
Ouch, Bohdan! Hitting below the belt...did you ask the Magic 8 ball anything yet? Give my CreationBot a go as well! tmtoulouse pester 00:02, 12 August 2007 (CDT)

Toys -changes[edit]

Could you mark 'em minor then we can filter 'em out on recent changes - it's making my eyes go splodgy. Keep on wiping until it's clean » 00:05, 12 August 2007 (CDT)

Sorry about that, I am don't coding for now so no more worries on my end. tmtoulouse pester 00:07, 12 August 2007 (CDT)

I may have broken the software[edit]

I blocked Bohdan for 1234567891 months, to out-do CP with their 1234567890 month block of someone. Trouble is, when I go to unblock him, I get a message saying he has already been unblocked. Now, maybe, a ten million year block might simply be beyond the scope of the software, and he can still edit. But, also, my intended ten million nanosecond block might stretch deeply and undeftly into the future. Can you take alook at the database (sorry), and the software (sorry^2) to make sure I didn't completely screw up our resident vandal's access to the site? Thanks! humanbe in 21:13, 12 August 2007 (CDT)

I believe this problem extends outside the realm of the natural wiki world. I feel like I am floating through space, unaware of my surroundings. I am frightened! Bohdan 21:16, 12 August 2007 (CDT)
Repeat after me: "Open the pod bay doors, HAL. HAL, open the pod bay doors!" OMGZ! It's full of stars! humanbe in 21:21, 12 August 2007 (CDT)
Oh, crap. Thanks anyway. I kind of wanted to be blocked for ten million years. I guess the floating problem probably had to do with you being a black hole. HAHAHAHA! Bohdan 21:37, 12 August 2007 (CDT)
I like to make little sucking noises, you know, just to emphasize my black hole like nature. tmtoulouse pester 21:40, 12 August 2007 (CDT)
Yeah...but if light cannot excape how can sound get out?CЯacke® 23:01, 12 August 2007 (CDT)
Haven't you ever heard of Hawking Audio Radiation......errr but so what, maybe YOU can't hear my sucking sounds but I can and I am all that counts. tmtoulouse pester 23:02, 12 August 2007 (CDT)
Thank you both for my daily dowe of lulz! Thank you both very much! humanbe in 00:49, 13 August 2007 (CDT)
Did you see the magnificent picture I found for your userpage? It took me hours to track it down. Bohdan 18:24, 13 August 2007 (CDT)
I did at that, thank you, I like to spin my monitor around in circles while looking at it. Makes it look neat. tmtoulouse pester 18:26, 13 August 2007 (CDT)

RationalWiki:Cascading protection (Administrator)[edit]

Here is are cascade protecting page but it is not very effective the bots just change the title. - Icewedge 14:32, 14 August 2007 (CDT)


I want in on the admin war fun......Eye Eye.jpg See You 00:24, 16 August 2007 (CDT)

I can't deal with this power, please, TAKE IT AWAY! Bohdan
Oh, oh, I'll take it, and then use my powers for evil.....Eye Eye.jpg See You 00:25, 16 August 2007 (CDT)
Alas the wheel is done for the night. Sleep well all. tmtoulouse pester 00:25, 16 August 2007 (CDT)
That was fun to watch, while it lasted.Eye Eye.jpg See You 00:28, 16 August 2007 (CDT)
Thank you for unblocking. I thought I was going to have to cry for 40 days straight. Bohdan 00:30, 16 August 2007 (CDT)
It's hard to go straight, believe me I've tried. CЯacke® 00:36, 16 August 2007 (CDT)

Did I win?[edit]

I got around your system and created a black hole page again. Bohdan

Well, I created one but icewedge deleted it. I guess I didn't win. Bohdan
You don't understand... vandals never win. They just have fun exploiting new possibilities... and perhaps become famous in the process... humanbe in 22:54, 16 August 2007 (CDT)

Still too early to tell[edit]

You were right, Trent: he's an utter douche. I apologize for questioning your judgment.-αmεσ (!) 10:18, 18 August 2007 (CDT)

Then again, who's to say?-αmεσ (!) 11:00, 19 August 2007 (CDT)

Notice board[edit]

"(call me cold hearted but I thought after the bridge collapse stuff we had decdied we are not a "breaking news" site)" Yes, do we have one for Newquay's hotel fire (which you prob haven't heard about), or the German woman kidnapped in Afghanistan? Where would you draw the line? Keep garlic for vampires 15:47, 18 August 2007 (CDT)

I agree, I think our site has its focus and its niche and we should grow that and not over extend. tmtoulouse pester 15:43, 18 August 2007 (CDT)
I almost deleted it myself, but instead I edited it to more "our" style. Boohoo, it was the only link to my prayer article and now it's gone! Ah, now there is a link to it again! Oh wait, maybe when I edited that dumb bridge collapse article I linked there, too.... humanbe in 22:21, 18 August 2007 (CDT)


You should really block yourself to complete the trifecta. Bohdan

I hope your not mad that I unblocked you. Bohdan
Oops, wrong account! My socks are so hard to keep straight. Bohdan
Its okay Wheel Warrior. tmtoulouse pester 23:41, 18 August 2007 (CDT)


Your lucky you still have your uses Snowball.... tmtoulouse pester 21:53, 19 August 2007 (CDT)

Hold on, I slightly change the English language and get blocked for it? This is an outrage! I thought you valued tolerance. If we all used the same old standard English there would be no diversity. Bohdan 22:15, 19 August 2007 (CDT)
You started the whole ban for degradation of the english language stuff, not me. tmtoulouse pester 22:16, 19 August 2007 (CDT)
No, I believe it was you. Bohdan
Nope I bemoaned the perversion of the English language by Ken and you called me out on spelling and grammar, I told you that was degradation not perversion, and you told demanded I ban myself for degradation of the English language. tmtoulouse pester 22:18, 19 August 2007 (CDT)
Hmmmm, I think I know what the problem is. I was obviously being impersonated. I think it was Human. You should ban him for a few minutes. Bohdan 22:21, 19 August 2007 (CDT)
I forgot how to ban... tmtoulouse pester 22:22, 19 August 2007 (CDT)

the "move" button[edit]

I have found my new calling. Bohdan

A regular wheely on wheels. tmtoulouse pester 23:38, 19 August 2007 (CDT)
That is so "WP/2003". Tmt, make sure I rolled your wheels back where they belong. Unless you actually liked your "new" user name... humanbe in 23:44, 19 August 2007 (CDT)
Thanks, I will use the rename option if I decide to keep it..makes it easier. tmtoulouse pester 23:46, 19 August 2007 (CDT)
That was..... interesting......Locke Eye.jpg Always Watching...... 14:32, 20 August 2007 (CDT) And by interesting I mean headache inducing Matrix effect.
It was binary code for a secret cabal meeting location. er...look away! tmtoulouse pester 14:36, 20 August 2007 (CDT)
01000010 01110101 01110100 00100000 01001001 00100000 01110100 01101000 01101111 01110101 01100111 01101000 01110100 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 01110010 01100101 00100000 01110111 01100001 01110011 00100000 01101110 01101111 00100000 01000011 01100001 01100010 01100001 01101100 00101110 00101110 00101110 Locke Eye.jpg Always Watching...... 14:41, 20 August 2007 (CDT)


Why don't I rate a bio? Geo 14:42, 20 August 2007 (CDT)

Because we don't hate you :(. Sorry... tmtoulouse pester 14:48, 20 August 2007 (CDT)

fun:Tmtoulouse Statistics[edit]

HAHAHA!!! Bohdan

Actually, you should poll the people here on that 90% stat. I'm 95% sure that I'm genuinely curious...--Bayes Factor 18:54, 20 August 2007 (CDT)
Off the top of my head, we have one doctor, one pre-med type person and two pre-law people. And that's without asking. And me, I'm an idiot. CP has one "lawyer", a handful of psychos, and some homskolled teenagers with great prospects in top-tier universities. And Bohdan to crack jokes and Hoji, their token liberal (but both of them are here, too). I'm 98% sure that the average IQ at CP dropped a full ten points on the night of the blunt knives. Godspeed!!! humanbe in 20:12, 20 August 2007 (CDT)

I can't imagine the average IQ @ cp being measurable or indeed detectable without some pretty hairy atomic imaging devices. Even with Hoji & Bohdan - the negative influence of assfly, tk, rob thing et al must reduce the ave to near zero. The level here - a lot of the serious stuff blows my mind - makes me feel positively privileged sharing the same webspace with some of these people. (even you H) Keep Your hands to yourself 20:37, 20 August 2007 (CDT)

Well, at least they aren't arrogant in their ignorance.[1] What's the confidence level on that? --Bayes Factor 21:29, 20 August 2007 (CDT)
As has been pointed out, we might as well give up making fun of them. There's no way we can outdo the job they do themselves. CP should be picked up as a sitcom by Comedy Central. humanbe in 02:17, 21 August 2007 (CDT)

For shits and giggles[edit]

Thought you might like it.User:PalMD

Shiggles! Godspwood!!! humanbe in 20:21, 20 August 2007 (CDT)
Wow, indeed. I added the site to our blogroll. I think TK and HG found that site first, though. Independently and simultaneously, as they say. humanbe in 20:29, 20 August 2007 (CDT)


I demand you restore Margaret Downey. Bohdan

It was a good article.
In what way?
Why don't you tell me why you deleted it
A one sentence article with no information sourced to a you tube video.
Minus the you tube video and you have half the articles here
In ACD maybe, but not so much in the mainspace, and the few that are that short either should be moved to ACD or have the potential to be expanded.
How about you restore it and put it in the ACD?
Because it wasn't funny, not even a little tiny bit.
Nor are the majority of other articles in the ACD namespace.
Eh, most you can at least see the joke, or its making fun of wikis in general, and often CP specifically.
Whats your point?
Why don't you just give Bohdan his own namespace?
Then what would he vandalize?
That Margaret Downey article contained nothing funny and no information and had nothing to do with this site other than the word dawkins.
I guess I lose. :(
Its okay I won't block you for it.
Your too kind
Its my liberal way.
no, no your starting to act all conservative. A liberal would have blocked me after my initial request.
So that must make TK Marx
Restore the page within 5 minutes, or no page is safe......
hey, that wasn't me. Some one else supports the recreation!

Holy crap, what is this "per terroist threat", French Canadian? Bohdan

Channeling CP
Heh, I just wanted a cause to wreak havok, but now that I see I'm a terrorist.....
Not a terrorist, a terroist.
Exactly there is a big difference
This is getting too hard to follow
Not really...
Concentrate more
My head is starting to hurt
Do I always need a reason?
We could have two conversations at once
In its way
What way. Get Pinto to take over for me.

I am going to bed, night all

I'm sort of glad that thats over.
I sort of wish I hadn't missed that.
Some people need to remember there signatures. lulz.
Sad I missed it, too. — Unsigned, by: signature / talk / contribs

It was funny[edit]

Get it, escort, as in craigslist as a clearinghouse for escorts. MD was introduced as Dawkins' escort, and she did not deny it. Watch the video for yourself. 00:21, 21 August 2007 (CDT)

Who the hell are you?
Probably one of the founders. 00:24, 21 August 2007 (CDT)

That was interesting[edit]

That wandal spree was interesting/frustrating.Locke Eye.jpg Always Watching...... 01:12, 21 August 2007 (CDT)

That was fairly strange wandalism actually, anyway, I demoted you, if you don't want it let me know. But if you are up at this time usually we can use your help and this will make it easier. tmtoulouse pester 01:13, 21 August 2007 (CDT)
Hey thanks, I usually am up around this time, so I'll try to keep an eye on things.Locke Eye.jpg Always Watching...... 01:14, 21 August 2007 (CDT)
Use your best judgment, rollback makes reverting easy, try engaging vandals in conversation to see if we can get them to agree to stop. If its just not working block based on our Fibonacci sequence. And thanks for your help, and my condolences on your demotion. tmtoulouse pester 01:18, 21 August 2007 (CDT)


On the forums, I made it so new users have to confirm their subscription after receiving an email, and spam has dropped to zero. Can we have a bot-prevention scheme for RW editorship too? I know it won't prevent IP spam, but it might help. humanbe in 12:45, 21 August 2007 (CDT)

There are extensions like the one CP uses that require you to answer a question before you can post an edit, that would do it but it seems annoying. Most of your RW spam is from anonymous IP addresses. tmtoulouse pester 12:46, 21 August 2007 (CDT)
It'd stop me (what d'you mean no bad?) - can't pick up e-mail on this thing - try me: Keep Salmon smoked 14:11, 21 August 2007 (CDT)

Bot blocker? I put a page on the vandals "scratchpad" wiki [2] with a back link to my own user page. It brought up one of those "type in the letters in the image below" password thingies with a "to prevent bot spam" message. Too techy for me but might be worth looking at? Seems to do it automatically if you put in an external link. Keep a £10 note hidden 06:51, 22 August 2007 (CDT)

It is probably because you made that edit as an unregistered IP. Locke Eye.jpg Always Watching...... 14:56, 22 August 2007 (CDT)

Question about extra buttons[edit]

So what exactly is the difference between rollback and revert? Locke Eye.jpg Always Watching...... 15:16, 22 August 2007 (CDT)

Rollback has 8 letters, revert has 6. Bohdan
Rollback will remove all edits in a row from that user, so if someone makes 10 bad edits in a row you can hit rollback and they all go away. It also does not require you to "confirm" like revert does. tmtoulouse pester 15:18, 22 August 2007 (CDT)
Ah, thanks. Locke Eye.jpg Always Watching...... 15:19, 22 August 2007 (CDT)

Fascist tactics[edit]

[3] Bohdan 19:22, 22 August 2007 (CDT)

Antivaccine troll[edit]

I have an anti-vaccine troll at the blog. I linked it here, but I don't think they've shown up here yet.--PalMD-Ars longa, vita brevis 14:06, 23 August 2007 (CDT)

mmmmm, time to play :). tmtoulouse pester 15:05, 23 August 2007 (CDT)


Any chance you could offer some insight on the conversation found here? Locke User is Vandal/sysop Always Watching...... 23:05, 23 August 2007 (CDT)

So in summary we need to find a way to phase in the new template that compatible with the old right? tmtoulouse pester 23:09, 23 August 2007 (CDT)
Yep, pretty much. Locke User is Vandal/sysop Always Watching...... 23:11, 23 August 2007 (CDT)


I'll give you $80 for maximum power on this site granted to me, and banning human. 23:10, 23 August 2007 (CDT)

You all ready have the highest rank on the site, anonymous IP users are kings here, anything else is a demotion. tmtoulouse pester 23:12, 23 August 2007 (CDT)
I'll give you $5 if you ban yourself. B****n
Well, $80 is $80. Isn't that your shortfall? Okay, you don't have to ban human, just block him for a day while I weild my bookoo bureaucratic and admin powers. 23:28, 23 August 2007 (CDT)
I'll give another pi dollarz if you (1) block Nadhob for pi hours and (2) disable editing by anonymous cowards lazy bastids IPs. humanbe in 23:44, 23 August 2007 (CDT)

navigation box[edit]

Can you add "help files" to it? Then we can get rid of the gotoguys/help thing on the noticeboard. humanbe in 14:19, 24 August 2007 (CDT)

I think we should replace "users" with "help" is the "users" link really useful at all? tmtoulouse pester 14:25, 24 August 2007 (CDT)
Maybe... actually, you know what would be more useful than users, is sysops. But that should be at "help", not the nav box. I dunno. I'd leave users, it's amusing? Either way is ok with me. humanbe in 14:43, 24 August 2007 (CDT)
By the way, it can be edited here: MediaWiki:Sidebar. tmtoulouse pester 14:26, 24 August 2007 (CDT)
Cool, thanks. If I try, hope I don't break it! humanbe in 14:43, 24 August 2007 (CDT)

Fascist again[edit]

[4] Bohdan

can we have this?[edit]


{{DISPLAYTITLE:xyz}} - I think it lets a page control the title that displays? I thought I saw someone using it on here (Ice, Linus?), but I think they used a different technique, since this one doesn't work.

Thanks! humanbe in 17:27, 27 August 2007 (CDT)

done. tmtoulouse pester 17:43, 27 August 2007 (CDT)
Excellent, thank you. How long do you think Mr. B. will take to find it? Probably not long, since I am headed to his user page next... humanbe in 17:49, 27 August 2007 (CDT)

the irony is delicious[edit]

You wrote to me when I came here as a welcome: "...welcome aboard, you have no fear of being blocked here. But it might be tough, since you can't block, delete and lock out your opposition." Is atheism so weak that you have to delete because you cannot out argue using the evidence? Truly pitiful. Newton 19:12, 27 August 2007 (CDT)

Delete what? tmtoulouse pester 19:13, 27 August 2007 (CDT)
And you cannot even allow dissent on a atheism talk page! So sad for you. And yet people at RationalWiki whine about Conservapedia which allows much more freedom of dissent on its talk pages. Newton 19:15, 27 August 2007 (CDT)
You'll notice though that you are still here, unlike on CP where you would be blocked, and then we would reply. Locke User is Vandal/sysop Always Watching...... 19:17, 27 August 2007 (CDT)
Dude, Newton, nothing was deleted your silly diatribe is still there, all I did was edit down your ridiculously long heading title. tmtoulouse pester 19:17, 27 August 2007 (CDT)
tmtoulouse, I don't think you should engage in liberal deceit like you just did. Newton 19:20, 27 August 2007 (CDT)
Seriously, Newton, WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? tmtoulouse pester 19:21, 27 August 2007 (CDT)
Your failure to treat his every keystroke as if it was Divine Writ clearly indicates that LIBERALS ARE WORSE THAN HITLER!!!!!1!!!@!~!!1!!one!!!. Or something. -- 19:22, 27 August 2007 (CDT)
I didn't delete is fucking comment though, WTF? Is he that dense? tmtoulouse pester 19:23, 27 August 2007 (CDT)
There was nothing long about the title as it merely took up one line. You action was simply to limit dissent. Anytime you want to stop engaging in liberal deceit let me know. Newton 19:26, 27 August 2007 (CDT)
We'll quite with the"Liberal Deceit" when you quit with the "unwarranted pomposity", 'k? -- 19:27, 27 August 2007 (CDT)

Newton, your either a fucking idiot or a liar, or maybe both, you used your whole god damn first sentence as the fucking title. Now shut the fuck up. I am in a bad mood and really don't need your brand of self-gratifying masturbatory bullshit all over my talk page. tmtoulouse pester 19:29, 27 August 2007 (CDT)

Wow, that's one bad sentance. Perverse, degrading, noxious, all in one. Shame on you. Bohdan 19:49, 27 August 2007 (CDT)
Shame on you for using such bad language
Don't let him get to you like that--take a break, read a book, do some Goat Flakes, or something. His silliness will still be here when you get back...unless The Mob deletes it first. -- 19:31, 27 August 2007 (CDT)
Addendum: Damn that Deceitful Tyrannical Liberal Thug! He's blocked one of the people in the debate! Tmtolouse's blocking of Tmtolouse indicates..... um.... That is this isn't Conservapedia, that's for sure. :) --19:34, 27 August 2007 (CDT)
I also wish to indicate my outrage! Tmtoulouse has blocked himself in a transparent attempt to give himself an excuse to exit the discussion! Deceit knows no bounds!
Irony indeed. A troll slings muck at a sysop, and the sysop immediately blocks the troll...oh, wait, that's NOT what happened? The EXACT OPPOSITE OUTCOME occurred? Hmm, I wonder what would happen elsewhere in a similar situation?--Bayes Factor 20:11, 27 August 2007 (CDT)