User talk:Tyrannis/Atheist names
"Carol" has no religious connotations? Really? ħuman 14:14, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- Carol is the female version of Charles, derived from old German churl, which indicates a free person not of the nobility. There is a Saint Charles(stomach diseases), as well as Charles Wesley, but Darwin takes precedence. I was avoiding names that were biblical based, or not usually associated with the church. I'm not a linguist, so, if you want to remove it, be my guest.User:TyrannisAn Iron, but caring, fist 14:18, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- Think outside the etymological box here... ħuman 14:45, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint%27s_name is what I was initially worried about. They have saints for bloody everything, I was jsut looking for names that were not used that way, until I realized that would be nigh impossible for men. Women seem to get off easier with the flowers and stuff.
- Think outside the etymological box here... ħuman 14:45, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- I'm not convinced about this. Biblical names would certainly have been in use before they appeared in the bible. They were later applied to the (mostly) fictional characters in the bible. Avoiding these names would indicate that the appearance of the name in this particular work of fiction makes the name in some way "special". I'm not buying it.--BobSpring is sprung! 14:28, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- I'm referring more to the Apostles and Prophets here, as well as the more "famous" saints(e.g. Theresa, Francis). User:TyrannisAn Iron, but caring, fist 14:31, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- Where would you place "Herod" and "jezebel"?--BobSpring is sprung! 14:35, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- I don't know, it is up to interpretation. Also, I think we keep pagan names off of here as well. After all it is Atheist names. I sense many talk page debates in the future on this. User:TyrannisAn Iron, but caring, fist 14:48, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- The only reason Hebrew names are used in modern-day Europe is because of their association with a religious text. Therefore, it has a certain logic that specific anti-religious people might want to avoid them. Not that there's anything wrong with people who don't.--
Kriss AkabusiAAAWOOOGAAAR!!1 14:55, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- Should we make an official criteria? User:TyrannisAn Iron, but caring, fist 15:34, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- There is a difference between "non-Christian names", "non-biblical names" and "not-theist names".--BobSpring is sprung! 15:45, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- Well, please enlighten us before the site descends into the most pointless HCM ever. TyrannisAn Iron, but caring, fist 15:48, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- Isn't it obvious? A non-Christian name would a name which is not associated with Christianity in any way. A non-biblical name would be a name which isn't mentioned in the bible. A non-theist name would be a name which isn't associated with any type of God whether Christian or not.--BobSpring is sprung! 15:56, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- I do read very quickly and have free time on weekends, but I am not going through the entire bible with a spreadsheet marking names until Thanksgiving break at the earliest. So we are right back were we started. TyrannisAn Iron, but caring, fist 15:59, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- Well, yes. As I have mentioned it's pretty pointless on various levels.--BobSpring is sprung! 16:02, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- Good point. I say, If I don't think deity, saint, or prominent biblical figure, just add 'em. TyrannisAn Iron, but caring, fist 16:05, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- I know we have a Theresa here but surely it's pretty heavy Catholic with three Saint Teresas. Lily Inspirate me. 16:09, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- Good point. I say, If I don't think deity, saint, or prominent biblical figure, just add 'em. TyrannisAn Iron, but caring, fist 16:05, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- Well, yes. As I have mentioned it's pretty pointless on various levels.--BobSpring is sprung! 16:02, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- I do read very quickly and have free time on weekends, but I am not going through the entire bible with a spreadsheet marking names until Thanksgiving break at the earliest. So we are right back were we started. TyrannisAn Iron, but caring, fist 15:59, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- Isn't it obvious? A non-Christian name would a name which is not associated with Christianity in any way. A non-biblical name would be a name which isn't mentioned in the bible. A non-theist name would be a name which isn't associated with any type of God whether Christian or not.--BobSpring is sprung! 15:56, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- Well, please enlighten us before the site descends into the most pointless HCM ever. TyrannisAn Iron, but caring, fist 15:48, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- There is a difference between "non-Christian names", "non-biblical names" and "not-theist names".--BobSpring is sprung! 15:45, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- Should we make an official criteria? User:TyrannisAn Iron, but caring, fist 15:34, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- The only reason Hebrew names are used in modern-day Europe is because of their association with a religious text. Therefore, it has a certain logic that specific anti-religious people might want to avoid them. Not that there's anything wrong with people who don't.--
Kriss AkabusiAAAWOOOGAAAR!!1 14:55, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- I don't know, it is up to interpretation. Also, I think we keep pagan names off of here as well. After all it is Atheist names. I sense many talk page debates in the future on this. User:TyrannisAn Iron, but caring, fist 14:48, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- Where would you place "Herod" and "jezebel"?--BobSpring is sprung! 14:35, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- I'm referring more to the Apostles and Prophets here, as well as the more "famous" saints(e.g. Theresa, Francis). User:TyrannisAn Iron, but caring, fist 14:31, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Flowers, months[edit]
Should provide a few score more girl's names. Is there something similar for boys? ħuman 15:07, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- Ah - but all months are named after gods of some type.--BobSpring is sprung! 15:12, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- Good point. Except for 7-10ember, of course. But then again, ernt most of those "gods" just planets and stuff? ħuman 15:16, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- Hmmmm... January Jones... Too bad she's named after a god. In any case, I'll be in my bunk. Bondurant (talk) 15:17, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- I did know a family once who named all the children after the continents. User:TyrannisAn Iron, but caring, fist 15:31, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- Good point. Except for 7-10ember, of course. But then again, ernt most of those "gods" just planets and stuff? ħuman 15:16, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Daisy, Lily, Violet, Dandelion, Buttercup (?), Clover, Priscilla, Punkin, Helen... just thinking out loud. ħuman 15:23, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- Belladonna.--BobSpring is sprung! 15:33, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- I see what you did there. TyrannisAn Iron, but caring, fist 15:45, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- Belladonna.--BobSpring is sprung! 15:33, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Define "Atheist"[edit]
Ok, so if a name translates to "God Given" or some such then that's clearly not atheist. However, my "real" name is Columb, Latin for dove. Nothing religious about that except that I'm named after my grandfather who was named after the Irish saint so now it's tainted? Similarly my son is named Patrick - which means "Noble" - think of patrician. Is that Atheist. Again it reflects my Irish heritage so now it's religious.
Confused? I am. Jack Hughes (talk) 15:39, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- For a whole bunch or reasons this while idea is madness. I would normally suggest sending it to Fun. However that is not possible in this so I nominate it "fun" fun"--BobSpring is sprung! 15:42, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- This seems like more of a spur of the moment thing that has escalated, with in 9 minutes of the page being created we were already confused. TyrannisAn Iron, but caring, fist 15:43, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Mainspace "see also" links[edit]
I don't think is ready for primetime, ya know? I mean it's not actually funny or anything. It's a just a brief reaction to the Daily Fail's Mohammed scare story. ħuman 01:25, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
- It'd be more worthy if someone wanted to go into more depth about the origin and development of names and then compare/contrast secular and religious origins. bomination 01:28, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
- Ok. I'll add it to the no-link list I have until either I or someone else decide to sacrifice a few hours for research. TyrannisAn Iron, but caring, fist 01:42, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
- Cool. ADK is right, add more rich content and then I'll stop whining about MP links. And I see the first stages are being laid. ħuman 06:45, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
- Ok. I'll add it to the no-link list I have until either I or someone else decide to sacrifice a few hours for research. TyrannisAn Iron, but caring, fist 01:42, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
Colleges and Cheese[edit]
My sister's boyfriend's cousins are named after colleges and cheese. Is that too off the wall, or should we add them? TyrannisAn Iron, but caring, fist 15:02, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, all of them. This page lost its point after three edits, so let's indeed add:
- Roquefort
- Cheddar
- Syphilis
- Edam
- Stilton
- Eton
- Yale
- UCLA
- Gruyere
- Monterrey Jack
- Chlamydia
- Genoa
- Persimmon
- Parmesan
- Limberger
- ħuman 15:18, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- But are they male or female?TyrannisAn Iron, but caring, fist 15:20, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- Isn't it obvious? ħuman 16:02, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- I think we should cuts of meat in the male section. Sirloin, Brisket, Rump etc.--BobSpring is sprung! 18:22, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- Isn't it obvious? ħuman 16:02, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- But are they male or female?TyrannisAn Iron, but caring, fist 15:20, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
BACing[edit]
There a markup thing that can keep us pretty, I just forget it right now. ħuman 07:47, 1 November 2010 (UTC)