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[edit] He's a Keeper

Badger skinsimg guy is going the full Ken. He's got four articles, three on the giant multi-colored unicorn of the Old Testament. The fourth, an odd stubimg conflates this guy and this guy, although they died about 60 years apart. He also uses the wrong spelling for the second guy, confusing him with his great-grandfather. Not surprisingly, Ken has taken this new patient editor under his wing. Whoover (talk) 15:48, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

He's been quietly building up to full blown idiocy for a while now. JoeyJ is the other on I'm keeping an eye on. Classic parodist behaviour. Between them they could yet make cp interesting again, although I don't hink badgers is a parodist. Just a nutter. Vargas Milan interest me as well. 'He' could yet get interesting. I await kenny's 'i told you so' claims in the next few months when they all out themselves. Oldusgitus (talk) 18:01, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

[edit] Who Needs Jesus?

Ken has been polishing Atheism Quotesimg lately, a particularly fetid group. I never noticed the one from Plato though: "Atheism is a disease of the soul before it becomes an error of understanding." I'm not sure what that means, but this is the first time I realized that Zeus, Hera, Poseidon, Demeter and the gang were worthy. In fact, I'd have thought that Ken considers pagans atheists. All that crap about atheists is a lot easier to take now that I realize it presumes fungible deities. I wonder if he knows that Plato also thought that sex lotteries were the best one-man/one-woman approach and that defective babies should be destroyed? Whoover (talk) 00:47, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Rigged sex lotteries, mind you. --Martin Arrowsmith (talk) 06:24, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
The ones where Ken's ticket is always marked VOID? Redchuck.gif ГенгисIs the Pope a Catholic? Moderator 08:47, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

[edit] Andy Contributes

He doesn't add much anymore, but when he does... The latest Best New Conservative Word is hypergamy -- the preference of many women to "marry up," which requires a society where men tend to make more than women do.img If women didn't make 70 cents on the dollar how would ugly men get hot wives? Yay, conservative principles. Whoover (talk) 00:39, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Eesh. Other than the yuck factor of hypergamy being a term en vogue with the MRA crowd nowadays, and the fact that it was used to refer to marrying into a higher social class (think Indian castes), it does not follow that men must make more than women do in such a society. Even if it was an ironclad law, it would only mean that a man's potential mates are drawn from the pool of women who make less than he does. That has nothing to do with what median incomes are between men and women. Aaand already I've put more thought into the matter than Andru has. Shit. He got me again.--Martin Arrowsmith (talk) 05:53, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
I thought about it for a second or two and moved on. And I still put more thought into than andy probably did. Oldusgitus (talk) 07:28, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
I'm now waiting for #Hypergamygate. Redchuck.gif ГенгисOur ignorance is God; what we know is science. Moderator 12:19, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

[edit] Site inactivity

Is it just me or is Conservapedia somewhat more boring than usual? The only entertaining parodist is a Ken-Clone and the Recent Changes are pretty much just Ken and Dataclarifier turd-polishing. Should we try a week-long Conservapedia boycott to see if the sudden drop in page views shakes things up? The worst that might happen is Ken binge-editing for 72 hours and being found dead a few days after he suddenly stops editing... Even Andy is barely active and Karajou is just uploading and blocking... (talk) 20:15, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, Badger Skins guy is just sad. I'm reduced to analyzing JoeyJ's gems, like "The Molar mass is the quotient of the mass m and the feel quanty n."img "Quanty" is probably quantity but I have no guess about "feel." Something to do with Avocado's Number, I imagine. But all told, the fun bits like this and Andy's celebrating Putin's censorship of the internet because the gays are not worth slogging through the acre-feet of crap. Whoover (talk) 20:44, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
Andy stopped caring a long time ago, and he was never capable of dealing with anyone when he did care. At this point Conservapedia probably just serves as another way for Phyllis to funnel money to Andy from the Eagle Forum political interest group, just like the fake classes he "teaches" at the Eagle Forum University. Occasionaluse (talk) 22:02, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
Wow. CP not even jumping on the Grubergate gangbang. How times have changed! nobsIt all depends what ISIS is. 22:36, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
Avocado's Number? With vinaigrette, please: prawns just don't do it for me. What are we waiting for, assembled in the forum? ProblemChimp (talk) 23:55, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
It can't be that dead; Andy reduced this users block one minute after Ken gave him two years. The only violation appears to be username considering they never made a mainspace edit. This is Andy-style management, telling Ken to lighten up on the blocks. Also it shows Andy's concern over declining traffic. But after 7 years they still haven't figured out User:EvolutionIsCool won't even remember his username a month from now. nobsIt all depends what ISIS is. 00:31, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
EvolutionIsCool made an edit to the Creationism article, but Ken burned it. Whoover (talk) 00:49, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
That CP entry on molar mass was shamefully inadequate, I've just done my best to improve itimg. How long have I got before I get rumbled? Discussion topic: is morarity objective or subjective? ProblemChimp (talk) 01:07, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
Pretty nice, making molarity vs. molality an atheist vs. biblical science thing. It may live forever. Shouldn't you have done something with feel quanty? Or is that too much? Whoover (talk) 01:10, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
Give me time, I'd like to build a {cough} rep for solid reliability first. (I trolled the WP article on a well-known band a couple of days ago, and think managed to get my edit to stick (a vigilante has improved my effort, a mate's earlier attempt got zapped.)) To an analytical chemist, normality is a much more practical idea than morality molarity - I have a mind to impart that practical wisdom to CP, if I can. Leave me the elbow-room ... molarity is an invention of Satan. That Sun IS hot. ProblemChimp (talk) 02:02, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
I'd like to see a Conservapedia article on the molar majority. PongoOrangutans are sceptical 09:36, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
It'd be something they could get their teeth into. SophieWilderModerator 19:03, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
It seems Ken is the only one who actually cares about Conservapedia anymore. Andy only uses it to occasionally make a comment about teh gheys or to complete another perfect doubling of his Conservative word list, Terry just uses it to linkspam to his blog, and Karajou randomly shows up to block people. I wouldn't be surprised if Andy is simply keeping the site running because Ken wouldn't have anything to do if it shut down. Snrub (talk) 14:12, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
What would Ken be doing if conservapedia didn't exist? Writing green ink letters to the local papers? Ikanreed (talk) 14:48, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
Rats! I've been spotted by Karajou (block reason: stupidity). I liked that idea of the molar majority, and had in mind adding something about molar relativism also. ProblemChimp (talk) 17:01, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
As you knew damn well you would which is why you came here shouting about how clever you were in 'editing' cp. My sock has been active over there for over 4 years now and is still live, largely because I don't wave my willy about when I make an edit. Oldusgitus (talk) 17:39, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
I do like how Karajou reverted back to the "feel quanty" edit. In the name of stupidity. Whoover (talk) 19:32, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
In the distant past, I seem to remember reading a page on the effective management of a stable of socks. Things like keeping track of the style and circadian routines of one's minions' activity so as to avoid suspicion. It may even have included tips on how not to wave one's willy about. Now I can't find it, the page, that is. RW must have outgrown that lamentable phase of its existence. Sprocket J Cogswell (talk) 19:39, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
A fair chunk of the original RW editors actually began by doing their best to help Andy write an encyclopedia. He was repeatedly warned about the likes of TK and Ken, and about becoming even more of a laughing stock if he allowed them to shape editorial policy. There was always an element of parody and vandalism, but it only really got going after it became clear that established scientific fact wasn't welcome in a number of key articles, even if merely presented as an alternative view to their creationist / ultra-conservative nonsense.
In the end, outright mockery and subversion became the only sane response to a man determined to shoot himself in the foot, forever. Robledo (talk) 20:28, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
God, I remember talking to Terry on IM. He was a weird bird. He just loved to pull strings. Occasionaluse (talk) 22:09, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
Aye. A thoroughly horrible bastard, but fucking talented. I never quite understood how he managed to worm his way back in with them after opening up the SDG. TerryH was ready to sue and Andy was just as ready to represent him. Robledo (talk) 22:43, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
Inexperience/obviousness might have been a better reason for my suspension. Live and learn; no real loss, especially since the preceding post to mine is still up. From what I've seen, though, the CP plain-vanilla science pages are so pitiful that they're hardly worth trolling. But hey, it was a useful lesson to learn that the mods there have nothing better to do are so vigilant. ProblemChimp (talk) 22:52, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Sorry? Are you saying you were unaware that anger bear and kenn obsessively read this site? You are inexperienced then. And one of the general rules here is don't out vandalism. It's especially silly if the vandalism is your own. Oldusgitus (talk) 07:15, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Does "never having visited CP until two weeks ago, and having made precisely one edit there" count? Gimme a break. (Of course, it wouldn't occur to me to mention anyone else's suspected contribution: that would be way beyond silly.) ProblemChimp (talk) 21:37, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
I think I've now also had the compliment of an IP block. My apologies to anyone else in Yeurpe who might have been caught by it. ProblemChimp (talk) 22:37, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
Honestly guys, I get misty eyed when I read some of the best, easiest, and last work I did at CP -- finishing Andy's Political Cards; those 52 puns just rolled off my fingertips in a few hours. And the page really shows Andy has a sense of humor. It's frustrating to see it lay there 95% complete and only needs a little imagination and minor tweaks. nobsIt all depends what ISIS is. 19:48, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
What's stopping you from fellating Andy's ego to get the block undone? It's unlikely you'll cross paths with Karajou again, so long as you don't infringe on his bird territory. Then again, I guess Andy needs Karajou more than you, so if he protested Andy would have to support him. Occasionaluse (talk) 14:47, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
IIRC it was the man child who went up against Nobs and no matter what else is fucked up with kenny his memory is not. Nobs goes back, kenny will block him before he manages to finish his first edit. Oldusgitus (talk) 15:00, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

[edit] Islamophobia

There seems to have been a flurry of islamophobic news stories on mpr recently. Is this new cp policy or has it always been so blatent and I have just not noticed? AMassiveGay (talk) 20:32, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Uh... well, the right wing tends to get on little self-supported bursts of hatred of things. Islam makes the list often enough. I haven't really noticed conservapedia being different from any of the rest of the clogosphere in that regard. Ikanreed (talk) 20:39, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
I guess a handful out of a pile is a flurry, but, islamophobia is absolutely nothing new for CP. They just go through peaks and down periods on whether the enemy is the evil muslims or somebody else. --Miekal 20:08, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
CP has a higher parodist-to-sincere wingnut ratio than the clogosphere as a whole, which makes "policy" a meaningless term. VargasMilan is a good example. He's a nasty little troll but has been stirring up the Islam mud of late. SamHB, bless his heart, takes him seriously and defends reason.img It's all so damned predictable. Whoover (talk) 21:14, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

Hi, new user here.

I read the ridiculous CP "article" about "Does God have a sense of humor?" and wrote refutations to some of the most ridiculous "arguments", in the talk page. For example, I pointed out that if God is the opposite of atheistic political leaders, since Mikhail Gorbachev is an atheistic political leader and also a criticizer of Putin, God must like Putin; that there is no mystery to the Easter Island statues: the Rapa Nui built them, period, and to say that nobody knows who built them IMO borders on racism; that North Korea can be quite funny at times, and that Germany, where the Christian Democratic Union is a very strong party, is also known for its lack of humor; and that if God has humor because men have humor and men are made in the image of God, then as men are sexually attracted to women and men are made in the image of God, God must also be sexually attracted to women. The reaction of a CP admin named "Karajou"16:43, 22 November 2014‎ — Unsigned, by: Hinmatóowyalahtqit / talk / contribs

that you're here means he was probably right 19:53, 22 November 2014— Unsigned, by: / talk / contribs
"Whoohoo look what I did on Conservapedia! Lookit! Looooook! Oh I got blocked." SophieWilderModerator 20:25, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
Don't you know that to troll CP you must be formless? The CP sysops saw Hinmatóowyalahtqit unprepared and swooped like a falcon. Fonzie (talk) 21:52, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

For God's sake, please don't call me a troll.

I read about CP in a news article about Citizendium. I went to CP and read a bunch of articles, including "Evolution", but "Rapa Nui statues are unexplained" was what finally made me post, as that shows...well...utter ignorance. I initially wrote only about that, but then I read some more "evidence" for God having humor so I wrote some more. Then they banned me and I was looking for a place to complain, because I was really mad, not at the banning, but at my arguments having been deleted, and me being called a troll. Then I found this site through Wikipedia. So no, not a troll. — Unsigned, by: Hinmatóowyalahtqit / talk / contribs

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