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[edit] Next up: Protocols of the Elders of Zion?

CP user:AmericanRedoubt has been sprinkling vaguely anti-Semitic quotes about the Rothschilds all over the Trusworthy Encyclopediaimg lately. AIG, Diane Feinsteinimg, Credit default swap, Goldman Sachs all have "Quote" sections with the same citations, many from the 19th century. I know he's their Ken of survivalism, but he could get the attention of the SPLC at this rate. Whoover (talk) 22:11, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

He is getting that way isn't he. He's just spent an hour adding Jewish People and American Jews as categories to hundreds of entries. I can see he and Joaquin getting along famously. Oldusgitus (talk) 11:29, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
It doesn't help that MPR isn't even subtly racist in its insincere "hey I have a black friend" sense and fraudulent misrepresentation. Nutty Roux (talk) 12:14, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
Uh huh. Another obvious parodist.img Nutty Roux (talk) 12:18, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
If that guys a parodist he's sicker than anyone there. Why would anyone go to that much trouble just to achieve, well what? I don't even know what it is he would be achieving. — Unsigned, by: / talk / contribs
Not at all. He's just a run of the mill racist, par for the course over there. andy is far sicker imo and as for anger bear, well.... Oldusgitus (talk) 20:24, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

[edit] Conservative of the Year 2010

Andy asks if a winner was declaredimg for an honor he made up on his own website 4 years agoimg(from the looks of it, no). A well-oiled machine you're running there, Andy. --Night Jaguar (talk) 05:03, 11 December 2014 (UTC)--Night Jaguar (talk) 05:03, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

So I wonder... if CP Conservative of the Year was an actual award (complete with statue and certificate suitable for framing), would any of the recipients actually accept it? For bonus points: what would the prize statue look like? --Inquisitor (talk) 05:18, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
A mini-Reagan ala the Oscar? And I'm sure there's some people who would accept it, maybe not put the frame up on their wall but they'd still accept it.--Miekal 05:48, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
I tend to think it would be Atlas shrugging. Really encompasses the collective reaction to the award too. AyzmoCheers 14:44, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
Germany is up for the award. The country most apposed to his man crush Putin.--Mercian (talk) 05:57, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
Probably even worse than Coke-Eyed Hurlbut's Middle School Wood Shop Project--Martin Arrowsmith (talk) 06:01, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
Oh yeah, I remember that. I've literally seen porn award trophies that look less phallic than that thing.
I like the ConservaMath Medalimg, especially how after four years later there is still no winner. And that isn't because the Field Medals is handed once every four years. As we've seen, it's just pure incompetence. --Night Jaguar (talk) 08:18, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
Perhaps they're still looking for someone who can put two and two together? Or prove that π = 3? ProblemChimp (talk) 00:12, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

[edit] Request for patience in editing during manic episode

At least 1000 edits in the last 4 or 5 days and he can't stop asking for patience or telling us he's a survivalist and practitioner of alternative medicine. Ed Poor would say that the guy is a little off but that he needs to be encouraged, as he did of Ken. TK would say he's a little off, but CP needs workers, as he did of Ken. Karajou is feverishly looking up redoubt in the dictionary. I do wonder what they think of this weirdo. Nutty Roux (talk) 05:48, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

He's another ken really isn't he. He self-evidently has no job as he spends every waking minute editing cp. I doubt very much he has a wife or family for the same reason, or if he does they've disowned him by now. He's almost monomaniacal in his editing practices. I can just imagin him sitting in a surbaban complex somewhere in the US surrounded by his guns and beans telling himself he's ready for the up-coming war. Oldusgitus (talk) 08:35, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
The poor guy. брэндэн (talk) 08:55, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
His last 500img contributions have come in just over 3 days. He seems takes a break between 8.30 and 17.00 (so maybe he does have a job but if so he doesn't need much sleep) but on Dec 12 he went from 1.16 to 8.30 without a break making 120 or so edits then back again at 23.04 and through to 8.23 the next day without a break making over 240 edits. Oldusgitus (talk) 11:21, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
He marked +10,863 as a minor edit; could that be a record, over all wikis? It's not just the number of edits, it's the size of them. And, have you seen the number of planned articles on his userpage? ProblemChimp (talk) 13:19, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
Ok I've decided. Now he's got night editing rights from kenny he's coming out as a parodist slowly but surely. Seriously, The Two Towers film is a novel but is also survivalist fictionimg and dystopian fiction (whatever the fuck that is). Ken, he's a paradoist and now we've told you you can claim to have noticed him before anyone else at cp. No need to thank us. Oldusgitus (talk) 12:56, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
I think he's just nuts. Apparently Starship Troopers is Dystopian Fiction, Survivalist Fiction, and Conservative Fiction. They live in a utopian society in which women can advance ahead of men, all facilities are co-ed, etc. Nuts or not, most of what he's doing isn't just pointless, it's embarrassing and should at some point be stopped and undone. But Ken doesn't give a shit and Karajou doesn't do a lick of work. Nutty Roux (talk) 20:17, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
Good call, imo. A freelancer, I'd guess, who hasn't yet found RW? Some of his edits are too good to be true, and all the ones I've looked at show real promise. ProblemChimp (talk) 01:30, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

[edit] get those dancing shoes on.

Quick, no time to loseimg Oldusgitus (talk) 19:07, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Choices, choices. Will the CP line be that if the hostages had been armed, there would have been less loss of life? Or, that all Muslims are terrorists? Or, that gun control laws encourage loonies to acquire handguns? Or, that notorious loonies shouldn't be allowed near handguns? There must be a way to combine more than one of those ideas. ProblemChimp (talk) 20:04, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
I do love kenny's comment that in Texas you don't get hostage situations. He's absolutely right, you just get head cases walking in and immediately firing killing as many as they can - and I realise that Texas has been relatively quite on the actual killing of children in schools for 40 years or so but you know what I mean. Does anyone know when the last school shooting was in Australia and how many they have had compared to the US? Anyone care to mention the timeline and the casualty figures to the man-child? Oldusgitus (talk) 20:52, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
And as if on cue we have this. Wonder if kenny will mention this on mpr? Oldusgitus (talk) 21:13, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
The last school shooting in UK was Dunblane in 1996, at a primary school: 18 dead, 15 injured. That led to private ownership of handguns being effectively banned. Four months later came the Wolverhampton attack, also on a primary school, by a man with a machete: 0 dead, 7 injured. I can't think of a more recent attack on a school.
More recently, we've had Monkseaton in 1989, a man with a shotgun shooting randomly: 1 dead, 14 injured; and Cumbria in 2010, a well-armed criminal with a grudge, who shot both targetted and random victims: 12 dead, 11 injured. That's all I can think of in at least the last 20 years (bombings are another matter). ProblemChimp (talk) 22:08, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
I remember Hungerford when I was a kid.--Mercian (talk) 22:44, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
Yep, Hungerford 1987. Man with a rifle and a handgun: 16 dead, 15 injured. I'd overlooked that one. ProblemChimp (talk) 23:02, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
Ref Monkseaton, was that Gazza's "mate" Raoul Moat?--Mercian (talk) 23:07, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
No, that was the Cumbria one (which started off on Tyneside). OMG look at his eyes!ProblemChimp (talk) 23:15, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
A shame, Gazza was a fantastic player, I always wanted to be him, now I am quite happy to be me.--Mercian (talk) 23:18, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
Looks like two almost-simultaneous events are being conflated: Raoul Moat the habitual criminal, and Derrick Bird the plot-losing taxi driver. SophieWilderModerator 20:15, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
Sophie, you're right, two separate events. I'd misremembered Moat as having fled across country, rather than northwards. ProblemChimp (talk) 20:32, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────kenny's giving usimg a shout out. How sweet of kenny. Now kenny, explain why in Australia 2 people, and the hostage taker, died in a hostage situation that lasted almost an entire day before being brought to to an end whilst on the same day a US veteran slaughtered 6 family members in minutes with his weapon of defence? Oldusgitus (talk) 20:01, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

And here was me thinking that all Amish live in Pennsylvania, you learn something every day. ProblemChimp (talk) 20:08, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
I enjoyed the "No true Scotsman conservative" and the goal-post shifting "due to a student" shticks, too. ProblemChimp (talk) 20:24, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
Isn't he a hard nut, calling people sissy boys behind his chobham armour. By the way Ken, how did your dance with the red head beauty go? Before calling people sexually abusive names remember that about a year ago a "concerned" CP user, who you later banned, had a quiet off piste word with Andy about removing some very questionable videos from one of your pet articles.--Mercian (talk) 21:29, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Speaking of "Amish are not Pacifist"img Kenny, does his apparent support of the "Sandy Hook never happened"img school of gun-nutism signal a new descent into his world of fantasy? Or has he been this wacko on gummint conspiracy Truths all along? For some reason, I found this "news" from him a bit startling. Whoover (talk) 23:34, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Burnt to a crisp. Whoover (talk) 01:17, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

[edit] A Seismic Edit

It's a sad day. My favorite Counterexample to Relativity, "earthquakes in Ireland," has been removed by Andy himselfimg. Inserted by banned parodist Spielman over two years agoimg, this gem survived many deletions and reversions (often by other parodists). Andy conflates all atheistic science, so it made sense to him viscerally. I wonder what changed his mind. It couldn't be all the contemptuous mocking, to which he is immune. Whoover (talk) 21:46, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Or fact-checking. What a splendid paragraph that was. ProblemChimp (talk) 23:10, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
It was pointed out to him on the talk page by JoeyJ. Open minded (talk) 21:58, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
No it wasn't. After Andy deleted it he posted about other Counterexamples that the same parodist inserted. It was also after my post. I guess he lurks here too. Or more. Whoover (talk) 01:05, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
SamHB is poking him on the talk page. It's good to see some classic Andy. Occasionaluse (talk) 15:02, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
Is there a Nobel for Andy in his discovery that the "relativistic" correction in GPS clocks is actually because the laws of physics are not invariantimg? But Andy sets off my parodistdar when he responds to SamHB's question about conservation of mass by "mistakenly" speaking of loss of energy, not mass. It's not possible that he doesn't see the difference. This has to be performance art. Whoover (talk) 16:05, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
And if not the GPS one, Reason #51 is certainly a Nobel candidate (presumably it only applies to electrons less than 6000 lightyears apart). ProblemChimp (talk) 16:21, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
Now Reason #47 - the Pauli Exclusion Principle. ProblemChimp (talk) 16:24, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

[edit] Andy brags

How the Australian cafe siege could not happen in the USA[1]. Within hours this happens[2].--Mercian (talk) 22:00, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

It was actually Ken that was bragging, not andy. And look up slightly. Oldusgitus (talk) 22:02, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
Got it. Were they police or Aussie SAS that ended it?--Mercian (talk) 22:41, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

[edit] Movie review

The Independent has a review of Dumb and Dumber To - a movie that I have no intention of seeing - but this quote caught my eye.

In the final reel, the filmmakers take great pleasure in sending up highbrow TED conferences by showing Carrey and Daniels wreaking havoc at a “KEN” conference - an event, ironically, at which they seem to fit in relatively comfortably.

Redchuck.gif ГенгисYou have the right to be offended; and I have the right to offend you. Moderator 14:16, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

I'd be more annoyed if it were before TED got all pseudosciencey and cultlike. Ikanreed (talk) 20:22, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
TED Talks are pretty much a pseudo-intellectual freakshow at this point. Real scientists, with real discoveries, get greeted to real blank stares. While some weirdo from Norway who can taste colors and has written a flute-operated interface for his Google Glass that allows him to overcome his fear of rice, masturbation, and crowds... gets wildly applauded. --Inquisitor (talk) 02:06, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
They're also a self-aggrandizing circlejerk. A 24 year old acquaintance who worked at a VC firm for 6 months gave a "talk" about entrepreneurship and venture capital. I had to leave. Nutty Roux (talk) 03:57, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

[edit] Presidente Fidel Castro is still not dead

I haven't really seen anyone getting on board with Andy about his theory that Fidel Castro died a while back and the Cuban government has been using body doubles. That is, until recently when I was reading about the thawing in American-Cuban relations:

That was more than five decades ago, and Fidel is still there, an old and frail man who ceded his power to younger brother Raul. Why doesn’t Fidel die?

“We believe he has some kind of relationship with the demon. The devil,” Sotolongo said. “He don’t die,” Acosta said. “He don’t die,” Sotolongo echoed.

“Or maybe he died a long time ago and we don’t know,” Acosta said.

Someone agrees with Andy, although he seems to rank the theory below 'relationship with the devil'. --Night Jaguar (talk) 05:40, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

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