Draft talk:Red Eagle Politics

Unfortunately I'm topic banned from editing the content pages...[edit]

User was unaware that topic bans also include talk pages

...though the important point should still be addressed on the talk page here. The modern-day right-wing populist movement and current populist efforts in general appear to be ignorant of U.S. history to a large extent. My analysis of those like Red Eagle Politics suggests that these types of people, unlike most conservatives, parallel the "traditional Southern Democrats" to a certain extent. Most liberal-leaning sources will describe many Southern segregationists as having supposedly been "conservative" though admitting that they especially supported some liberal economic policies from the New Deal to the Great Society (i.e. Richard Russell, Allen Ellender, Walter F. George, etc.). The current right-wing populist movement is socially conservative though claims to be "moderate" on economic issues, sometimes even supporting welfare programs compared to conservatives concerned with the national debt and federal spending. I also noticed that many on the right-wing populist side have called for repealing the Hart-Celler Act, which overwhelmingly passed with main opposition in the Senate being from the Southern bloc.

Now don't get me wrong: some aspects of the current right-wing populism, like emphasizing on the working-class, can be beneficial, though its consistent insistence on not putting moral principle first means the movements will always inevitably go too far. The differentiation between right-wing populism (aka the Red Eagle Politics type) and left-wing populism (aka socialism/communism) is much less than the differentiation between conservatism and liberalism.

Hopefully @Unclescrooge, who created this draft, gets the message. All this is very relevant. UShistoryanalyzer (talk) 03:07, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

As far as I understand the topic ban also includes talk pages. I don't think anyone will will block you for this since you apparently didn't know it, but you can check the conditions here and ask on ATIM if you're not sure whether you can do something or not. GeeJayK (talk) 03:14, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Yes, there is indeed differences between conservatives and reactionaries (Neo-Nazis in the case). Sadly, most of the US thinks everything on the left is Liberalism and everything on the right is Conservatism. All of that being said, conservative hands are not clean in the matter of Jim Crow, not in the slightest. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 03:23, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

@GeeJayK Wait wait wait, I'm probably not even allowed to comment on these talk pages?!! Ridiculous! UShistoryanalyzer (talk) 03:26, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

As I said, as far as I undestand, yes. GC was topic banned once (although it wasn't his fault at all, at least in my opinion), you can ask him, or a mod, though I'd suggest you to do this elsewhere and not on this very talk page. Topic bans are on average easy to appeal, you just have to be patient and do what you were doing, reverting vandalism and stuff. GeeJayK (talk) 03:37, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Oh. UShistoryanalyzer (talk) 03:45, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

(crucial reply here) @GrammarCommie GC, I think you should have a better understanding of U.S. politics/history. Republicans, both staunch conservatives and moderates/liberals, fought Democrat racism throughout U.S. history. The segregationist Southern Democrats were divided (except over their racism, obviously) between the populists and the progressives, the former of which represented agrarian interests and often against "reforms" that the latter sought. Both types have deceptively lumped by modern-day leftists into the "conservative" category, which is misleading. This applies more for the progressives, three notable examples being Sens. Russell, Ellender, and George. They were New Dealer liberals who were also racists in egregiously opposing anti-lynching legislation. Much of this reflects on how they appealed to the racist voter base: a combination of segregationist politics and liberal economics worked out successfully in many areas, including J. Lister Hill's organization which dominated Alabama politically for several decades via advocating New Deal economics that residents in the state supported. Now compare that to conservatives who consistently have opposed welfare programs in particular. UShistoryanalyzer (talk) 03:41, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you @UShistoryanalyzer, you certainly know a lot!!! Unclescrooge (talk) 02:17, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

I've actually gotten off my ass and read this man's blog, and I have an important conclusion.[edit]

He's a Nazi. He doesn't even seem to be a particularly smart one, since he thinks Charlie Kirk of all people is a fucking moderate. Richard Spencer this man is not. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 02:42, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

I read some his blogs as well. He is a wannabee pundit who gaslights racist bullshit. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 03:16, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Draft talk:Red Eagle Politics

Unfortunately I'm topic banned from editing the content pages...[edit]

I've actually gotten off my ass and read this man's blog, and I have an important conclusion.[edit]

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