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Pommer's Law in action.

The chicken coop is for the avoidance, containment and resolution of cases of Headless Chicken Mode (HCM). Despite the name, this tends to be serious business.

This page can be used for reporting cases of administrative abuse (abuse of sysop or moderator abilities such as blocking, page deletion, or user rights management), general abuse (such as trolling, wandalism, and personal attacks), and conflicts which cannot be solved through normal talk page discussion (such as long-standing edit wars or article content disputes). Please be specific and include links to any relevant discussions, page edits or logs.

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Anti-Authoritarian (talk · contribs · block  · rights  · rename) has been a persistent disruptive editor. Their edits have not been vandalism, but this user doesn't understand how to correctly edit and has ignored feedback given to them. See their user talk page for many examples, including:

  • Adding links that don't work
  • Edit warring
  • Adding unsourced claims about living people
  • Ignoring warnings about adding excess navigation templates
  • Misquoting
  • Consistently signing incorrectly after being told how to sign (the signatures that appear to be correct were initially added incorrectly but fixed by other users)

I left the following comment on their talk page:

As I have mentioned here twice already, many of the links you add do not work. From now on, I will revert any of your edits with links that do not work (such as this). You are free to fix them but I am done cleaning up your mess. CowHouse (talk) 05:33, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

Since then, Anti-Authoritarian has continued to add links that don't work: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]

These kinds of mistakes are not obvious in the diffs which has caused sysops to mistakenly patrol their edits several times. I have tried to be patient with this editor but I have made very little progress. Other users should not be expected to fix so many of Anti-Authoritarian's mistakes. Due to disruptive editing, I think a lengthy block is necessary I have been unable to resolve these issues and I welcome any suggestions. CowHouse (talk) 07:46, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

I think a probation would be appropriate. CowHouse (talk) 17:22, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

I don't think blocking someone who isn't formatting properly is necessary. I wouldn't call it "disruptive" either, as Anti-authoritarian has made many contributions. I do agree that we need to sort out why they haven't been following advice/instructions, but blocking isn't the way to do that. —Kazitor, pending 08:49, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
I'm open to other suggestions. I brought it to the coop because I acknowledge that I have failed to resolve this. Either AA isn't listening or I'm not communicating effectively.
To be clear, I am happy to explain to someone how to format correctly and have done this with plenty of users. AA is different in that they either don't understand or completely disregard the feedback they receive. I still have not worked out why they cannot simply copy and paste a URL so that it works. It's not difficult for any other user.
AA has been making basic errors for months despite receiving feedback from multiple users. Many of these mistakes could be easily avoided by proofreading and clicking "show preview" (which I have mentioned on AA's talk page). AA constantly relies on other users to notice mistakes that aren't obvious and clean up their mess. Some examples (from AA's last five contributions):
CowHouse (talk) 14:31, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
It's definitely that AA isn't listening, no doubt about that. Unfortunately, I don't have any suggestions. —Kazitor, pending 20:27, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
What you're saying about Anti-Authoritarian is true, but I don't see how a block is going to solve anything. Anti-Authoritarian is not even autopatrolled, so everything they edit eventually gets approved or reverted by a sysop. Bongolian (talk) 16:53, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
That is part of the problem. Most sysops will approve edits that aren't obvious vandalism. As I mentioned earlier, AA's edits are not vandalism and many of the mistakes they make are not obvious in the diffs. This means that AA's edits regularly get approved by sysops. CowHouse (talk) 17:15, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
OK, I am open to suggestions as well. We could also consider a vandal brake, though it would be an unusual use. @Anti-Authoritarian should come here to defend himself/herself. Bongolian (talk) 20:27, 20 March 2018 (UTC)