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It has been 16 days since the last squabble.

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Bongolian's block of WWW[edit]

I wish for a wider-community review of Bongolian's infinite block of What a Wonderful World. Bongolian originally blocked WWW for 3 months and when I challenged him on it he told me to mind my own business (RWRW:MYOB). Since then he has increased WWW's block to infinite following an apparent admission of tampering with the 2017 Moderator election. I personally oppose this action but, to avoid a block/unblock war, I have decided to open this up for a community review.

I should also note that I have conditionally unblocked WWW allow him to comment on this case if he wishes to. I have instructed him to stay away from the RMF Election in the meantime. --RWRW (talk) 18:51, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Endorse infinite block[edit]

  1. Really, this isn't worth the time defending someone in sysop revoke (WWW). He's a troll plain and simple. WWW admitted: WWW stated: "Perhaps you should give it a little more weight considering I, together with a friend from high school, got Pbfreespace3 elected as an alternate for moderator..." (provided courtesy of @Cosmikdebris). WWW has continued with election ratfuckery in the current campaign and has contributed nothing of value to RW. Bongolian (talk) 21:00, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
    You've gotten a few recent mainspace contributions out of me. What a Wonderful World (talk) 21:13, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
    Yawn. They only mainspace page you edited was pregnancy. Bongolian (talk) 21:27, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
    Well, I guess the funspace doesn't count in your book. Probably because you are no fun. What a Wonderful World (talk) 21:34, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Oppose infinite block[edit]

  1. I oppose this infinite block, just like I opposed the original 3 months block. As far as I can tell WWW has done nothing to 'disrupt' the RMF election. I also don't believe his comment means he actually hacked the previous Mod election. --RWRW (talk) 18:51, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
    Hurray for you, this isn't Coop-worthy though. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 19:12, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
    Actually, this is coop-worthy. Trying to review unilateral blocks is the whole purpose of the coop. RoninMacbeth (talk) 19:17, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
    @RoninMacbeth Given that WWW outright confessed, I am inclined to disagree. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 19:20, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
    That's not your call to make. If Bongolian is correct in the application of the block, then the community will come to that consensus, as I'm sure they will. In the meantime, WWW is entitled to speak in their own defense, and Bongolian should explain their block rather than telling RWRW to "MYOB." RoninMacbeth (talk) 19:24, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
    I assume it was all done in the proper spirit. But, if a hearing is requested, is it not required? Ariel31459 (talk) 20:02, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
    Alright, I've been around this site longer than any of you people have, and this is just stupid. I was not ballot stuffing or anything like that in the moderator election if that is what you are trying to say, what I meant when I said a friend and I got Pbfreespace3 his position as an alternate is that I nominated him for the position, he accepted, and the community took it from there because I didn't even vote in the election, and to my knowledge, Ex-Troll did not either. I did the same with this election, and I was very transparent about it. It's funny, just like this site used to be. This site was never a serious project, and never will be a serious project; you guys still use the block function to horse around with each other, still mock people you don't like... The difference is now there's a group of punks with administrative power who have a chip on their shoulder and think they are God's gift to RationalWiki, and I'm sorry to say you're not. You know who you are, and you are actually idiots who need to get a life; if you want to play Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle in a serious capacity, take up vandal patrol at Wikipedia. What a Wonderful World (talk) 21:07, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
    And I'm going to add, you are wasting your time. This is not my first rodeo. On one hand, past accounts have been permabanned, on the other hand, I have a few floating around with sysop powers, it's just too bad I don't remember the passwords to them. I've also been a serious candidate for moderator, so hop off. What a Wonderful World (talk) 21:11, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
    Thanks for endorsing your own permaban, @What a Wonderful World, since you acknowledge that you won't mind. Go find another sock. Bongolian (talk) 21:16, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
    Don't mind if I do. What a 'tard. What a Wonderful World (talk) 21:21, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
    I'm going to add, I really haven't broken any rule here. Not with this account anyway. Not in a long time anyway. What a Wonderful World (talk) 21:26, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
    Thanks, you just admitted guilt. Be gone. Bongolian (talk) 21:29, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
    You're an idiot. You have no idea how RationalWiki operates, so just shut up. It used to be entertaining to read what people were babbling about on this site at least, people like you are making it so it's just stupid. What a Wonderful World (talk) 21:31, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
  2. I have my reasons... RoninMacbeth (talk) 21:23, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
    Goodpost.gif Board material right there. What a Wonderful World (talk) 21:31, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
  3. I believe that there's a heavy burden of proof for anyone who wants to impose a permaban of this nature. Bongolian has not met that burden. The only justification given for the penalty levied against WWW is a vague statement made by WWW which has been alleged to be evidence of "election tampering." I find this reason and evidence unconvincing. I have also seen no evidence of ratfucking in this election cycle either. Frankly, if this community holds that a user may be banned for posting on the elections board and nominating other unpopular users, any one of us could be subject to the same punishment. In short, blocking WWW for the stated reason and duration is a bad move. Chef Moosolini’s Ristorante ItalianoMake a Reservation 21:49, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
  4. Permaban seems a little harsh. The most stringent measure I am willing to impose on this person would be barring this person from the elections, barring from nominating anyone. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 22:32, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
  5. No evidence this is a Russian operative. Therefore he is probably not subverting the elections. ^_^ This message is approved by Dysklyver Ensign of the Duke of Cornwall.svg (brebmyn) 22:35, 18 August 2018 (UTC)


Given that I am currently editing from my phone, I would ask that I be given time to respond via my computer. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 21:36, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Now that I'm finally back at my computer I'll add my input. WWW has made it clear that he only exists here to troll us, has made edits exclusively for the purpose of disruption and division, has harassed other users, and has on numerious occasions alluded to a previous ban. Given this behavior, in addition to acting like a twelve year old when someone gets tired of his shit, I would recomend that we block this person, if not outright ban them. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 22:57, 18 August 2018 (UTC)