Talk:Freemason

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Initiation

I'd like to contribute to the initiation topic. since the European ritual differs greatly from the american or Brithish. In regular Dutch masonry for example the initiation happens in formal clothing.

The initiation is the point of reference for each degree Mason. They share the same experience in a different time, but in the 'same' place. This way symbols used and experiences from other masons can be lived through easily. One example, the blindfold symbolizes the initiate walking/'traveling' in darkness. Some people see it as a symbol for bad times in life, other people see it as aa low point in their spiritual life.

Jaldabaoth (talk) 09:22, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Christopher Knight and Robert Lomas.

Have just read The Second Messiah - 'a universal theory of Masonry' bringing in the Templars, Jesus' brother James and the Egyptians as part of the Masonic history and the English Masons suppressed the true history of Masonry (they also wrote The Hiram Key): should there be some mention on the page (or 'Authors of fanciful theories involving the Freemasons')?

I spotted a few errors of the 'check in ordinary encyclopedia' level so 'make of that what you will.' As with other such theories - various research has been done, some parts are true, but the connections of the whole are flawed or even wrong. 86.191.125.144 (talk) 13:54, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Masonic social life

Given how much time 'the Freemasons' will, if the conspiracy theorists are believed, have to devote to organising the world to suit their interests it is a wonder that they have any opportunity to dress up for their ceremonies and have general socialising/networking (which, one would expect, will be part of the reasons for people electing to join them). 86.146.99.29 (talk) 09:48, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

Napoleon

Is there any proof that Napoleon was a Mason like the article says?

M2nd1 (talk) 02:09, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

John Cleese quote

Note the reference to 'colour TVs' (ie it was still an emerging 'accessible technology'). Anna Livia (talk) 17:01, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

If I want to see a list of notable Freemasons

I can just, you know, Google it and I will probably get a better result. I think we should remove this colossal, unsourced list from this article. What do you guys think? GeeJayK^{Where all evil dwells} _{Where every lie is true} 15:41, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, make the list go away, and promote the following paragraph. The list does nothing for the article. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 17:41, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

I honestly don't mind the list, but yeah, I can't think of a reason to have it over, say, a Freemason category or a link to a list of Freemasons. The fact that most of the listings are unsourced certainly doesn't help either. Do note that the list also ends with a note about people who weren't Freemasons, despite various conspiracy theories insisting that they were, which, granted, is also largely unsourced. DietMondrian (talk) 19:04, 9 April 2023 (UTC)