Talk:Human Rights Watch
Shouldn't the article use the full name and the abbreviation redirect to it? human 14:17, 25 February 2008 (EST)
Anyone want to wade into the controversy over the Goldstone report? I don't, but it strikes me as possibly important and definitely relevent. Researcher 16:22, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
I'm removing the Jeffery Goldberg citation unless someone gives me a good reason to keep it
We shouldn't be citing what is clearly outlined as hearsay as if it were fact in our article. Goldberg concludes that a Human Rights Watch representative met with Saudi officials and concludes that he must have been fund raising in spite of a clear explanation from the organization that they've never solicited funds nor taken funds from Saudi Arabia, and meet with their officials to press their human rights concerns, which Goldberg calls a non-answer, because they dare to criticize Israel at any point, and Goldberg is a blood soaked monster who openly lusts for slaughter in the name of protecting Israel at least annually in the Atlantic.
Actually re-reading the sheer dishonesty Goldberg uses to try to hammer Roth into either saying something that might be untrue without his knowledge(like that there might have been people "indirectly associated with" the saudi government at an event he hosted) or that looks vaguely and non-specifically bad (what he eventually settles on for their last communique), I'm removing it now. You can add it back if there's any reason to take it more seriously than a hack job.
It's not like HRW gives Saudi Arabia a light touch, they've been one of the leading voices in stopping the genocide in Yemen and rightly blaming the Saudi government for it.
They rightly denounced MBS as a tyrant and a mass murderer before he even took office, but Goldberg was heaping praise on him for being very vaguely pro Israel(to his credit Goldberg mentions Yemen in passing). One of these two has dubious ethics with respect to Saudi Arabia. It's not the one this article says. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 16:16, 27 April 2021 (UTC)