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Harm to others[edit]

Surely one could argue that not wearing a seatbelt does harm other people, since 1. There's a chance of them getting flung through the windscreen and smashing into a pedestrian, 2. Other people around have to end up getting emotionally scarred due to having seen your splattered carcass, 3. It causes a road block and costs taxpayer's money and police time clearing up the mess. Just playing DA here. TheSocktor (talk) 08:27, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

And 4. Emotional scarring to those close to you by your death (unless you're completely socially isolated, of course), or 5. Costs incurred by and/or burdens placed on society in general or your personal network if you're only maimed and will be needing care, an effect exacerbated if you become permanently disabled.
Also, it's hard to point out what's so beneficial about not wearing a seatbelt or how mandatory seatbelt laws seriously limit personal freedom compared to the rather obvious (personal and societal) benefits. At least tobacco, like other narcotics, provide some sort of short term personal benefit by virtue of its chemical effects. ScepticWombat (talk) 08:35, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
Also tobacco and other drugs can be taxed to alleviate to counter some of their impacts. TheSocktor (talk) 09:15, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Read this before you condemn it.[edit]

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