Talk:The Troubles
What the fuck?[edit]
What the fuck is this shit? War with the Irish Republic? Seven counties? Oh my god. Totnesmartin (talk) 11:51, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
- The " War with the Irish Republic" does read like like something from an alternative reality.--BobSpring is sprung! 14:42, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
Article Needs Improvements[edit]
This article could use a lot more information about the actual fighting that took place there rather than just the background. In fact, it seems very similar to a clone of the Northern Ireland article. Jsonitsac (talk) 01:53, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
What exactly is the problem?[edit]
Why was my edit reverted? ProudTory (talk) 00:12, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
- Because you talk shit. Off you fuck. rpeh •T•C•E• 00:18, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
- Anyone care to offer a perspective that isn't coloured by foul language, raw ignorance, or complete idiocy? ProudTory (talk) 00:25, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
- Very obvious bias which paints a group you personally don't like as nothing but terrorists while ignoring any naughty things the British did and any legitimate claims the IRA had.--Token Conservative (talk) 00:35, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
- OK then. What legitimate claims did the IRA have? I'm fascinated. Have you ever actually spoken to someone from Northern Ireland, be they Catholic or Protestant? My wife is a Belfast Catholic and I own a home near Newry. ProudTory (talk) 00:38, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
- North Ireland? No, but I'm friends with a woman from the Republic, and she has listed off a huge list of complaints she and others have/had with the British rule of Ireland.--Token Conservative (talk) 00:46, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
- Does your friend base her complaints on facts or on myths? ProudTory (talk) 00:47, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
- Pretty sure the British exporting Irish grown food during the Great Potato Famine was real. Don't know, or frankly care, about the rest. The issue remains your wording.--Token Conservative (talk) 01:02, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
- The British? Or market forces? I fear you don't understand quite how intricate the political and economic system at the time was and I doubt the grievances were as straight forward as your friend suggested. When it comes to Britain's relationship with Ireland, myths abound unfortunately. ProudTory (talk) 01:04, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
- When the guy who supported British domination of Ireland agreed that the British were exporting food from Ireland, I'm inclined to think that you are wrong.--Token Conservative (talk) 01:07, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
- Have you read a book about the subject or are you even basically familiar with the economic and political milieu of the time? Its not a matter of being right or wrong. Its a complicated issue and I'm afraid whatever drunken conversations you had with some Irish people doesn't quite cut it when it comes to evaluating, analysing, and discussing the facts. ProudTory (talk) 01:08, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
- I don't care? Why do I need to repeat that? And why do I need to keep repeating that the issue is your wording?--Token Conservative (talk) 01:11, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
- At this stage I'm just curious as to why you feel your own admitted ignorance affords you the right to have an opinion on the history of British/Irish relations? ProudTory (talk) 01:12, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
- Just because I don't know much about the subject does not mean that it isn't incredibly obvious to everyone that your edit was incredibly biased.--Token Conservative (talk) 01:17, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
- At this stage I'm just curious as to why you feel your own admitted ignorance affords you the right to have an opinion on the history of British/Irish relations? ProudTory (talk) 01:12, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
- I don't care? Why do I need to repeat that? And why do I need to keep repeating that the issue is your wording?--Token Conservative (talk) 01:11, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
- Have you read a book about the subject or are you even basically familiar with the economic and political milieu of the time? Its not a matter of being right or wrong. Its a complicated issue and I'm afraid whatever drunken conversations you had with some Irish people doesn't quite cut it when it comes to evaluating, analysing, and discussing the facts. ProudTory (talk) 01:08, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
- When the guy who supported British domination of Ireland agreed that the British were exporting food from Ireland, I'm inclined to think that you are wrong.--Token Conservative (talk) 01:07, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
- The British? Or market forces? I fear you don't understand quite how intricate the political and economic system at the time was and I doubt the grievances were as straight forward as your friend suggested. When it comes to Britain's relationship with Ireland, myths abound unfortunately. ProudTory (talk) 01:04, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
- Pretty sure the British exporting Irish grown food during the Great Potato Famine was real. Don't know, or frankly care, about the rest. The issue remains your wording.--Token Conservative (talk) 01:02, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
- Does your friend base her complaints on facts or on myths? ProudTory (talk) 00:47, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
- North Ireland? No, but I'm friends with a woman from the Republic, and she has listed off a huge list of complaints she and others have/had with the British rule of Ireland.--Token Conservative (talk) 00:46, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
- OK then. What legitimate claims did the IRA have? I'm fascinated. Have you ever actually spoken to someone from Northern Ireland, be they Catholic or Protestant? My wife is a Belfast Catholic and I own a home near Newry. ProudTory (talk) 00:38, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
- Very obvious bias which paints a group you personally don't like as nothing but terrorists while ignoring any naughty things the British did and any legitimate claims the IRA had.--Token Conservative (talk) 00:35, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
- Anyone care to offer a perspective that isn't coloured by foul language, raw ignorance, or complete idiocy? ProudTory (talk) 00:25, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
Article Still Needs Improvement[edit]
The last time anyone said anything here was five years ago and there's still a disproportionate amount on the background of the conflict compared to the conflict itself, I'm not well-versed enough to fix it myself but it needs doing so I thought I'd say so again. FᴜᴢᴢʏCᴀᴛPᴏᴛᴀᴛᴏ, Esϙᴜɪʀᴇ (talk/stalk) 21:54, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
The article hardly even mentions the troubles[edit]
It gives some background on history and a brief overview on where the situation stood pre-Brexit, but it does not say why the Troubles happened, what they entailed how and why the ended nor anything else I'd expect in an article on the troubles. And this is a damn shame, given that it is a religious conflict with one side nuttier than the other. AKA a softball down center plate which we should be knocking out of the park another Jewish conspiracy by (((Laurogeita Hamabost))) (talk) 22:22, 26 August 2016 (UTC)