Talk:Transmedicalism

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Is this a thing anywhere other than Tumblr? A Google search returns almost nothing of consequence.--TheroadtoWiganPier (talk) 13:41, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

This is more of a cultural term, or we might have invented to describe some of our views. Dandtiks69♪♫ (talk) 21:48, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
It's a thing that's pretty common in some countries, but it often doesn't get named by any particular term. 142.124.55.236 (talk) 23:33, 12 September 42015 AQD (UTC)
I guess that can go in there. Dandtiks69♪♫ (talk) 07:32, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
What can go in where?--TheroadtoWiganPier (talk) 07:34, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
The fact that this term is loosely defined. Dandtiks69♪♫ (talk) 07:41, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
Isn't this sort of the tumblr version of gate keeping? The medical professionals have long insisted on what exactly makes for a trans person, much of it silly "gate keeping" stuff (f'ex, defining what gender roles have to be filled for life experience as your target gender) -- do we already have an article on all that? I tried searching and got a whole lot of fuck all, but it's late, and I'm tired. In any case, medical gate keeping is definitely a real world thing, and "truscum" both seems to be limited to tumblr, and is directed at trans people by trans people -- the former I can probably dig up stuff on, the later I'm not touching, and I'm not sure what the article here is after (or whether it needs its own article instead of a subsection under the trans article [whose title escapes me], but that's not a thing I'm gonna ponder at 2am!) Argenti Aertheri (talk) 06:00, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
I sweep through pages of web pages yet still can't find any real article. Just some angry transgender folk. We should change the article to gatekeeping policies in the transgender community. We can then include transmedicalism, Harry Benjamin Syndrome, and separatist transsexuals. 110.21.26.117 (talk) 08:52, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
Good idea.ClickerClock (talk) 11:16, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Found something[edit]

http://www.crossdreamers.com/2013/12/truscum-and-transgender-war-of-words.html http://www.crossdreamers.com/2014/05/survey-of-truscum-transsexual.html http://www.crossdreamers.com/2014/05/on-various-shades-of-transgender.html http://www.crossdreamers.com/2010/01/transgender-and-transsexual-glossary.html

Someone please do something with these? 211.30.178.254 (talk) 08:08, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. The irony is that I was going to do the same thing as you. ClickerClock (talk) 04:07, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

Merge[edit]

I propose this be merged with transphobia and have transmedicalism redirect to the appropriate sub-section. Dandtiks69♪♫ (talk) 05:07, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Good idea! ClickerClock (talk) 03:33, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

Major sexes[edit]

I wonder what the "minor sexes" are. Any input on this?145.64.134.245 (talk) 14:02, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Those less well-endowed...? Reverend Black Percy (talk) 14:30, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Good job[edit]

What was a stub is now a well-researched article. Good job, editors. Dandtiks69♪♫ (talk) 22:34, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

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This article is ideological nonsense, distortion and goebbels-like propaganda. Sorry wiki shouldn't be used for forcing ideological beliefs especially when used to attack some unpopular Tumblr community form USA-reductionist perspective.

How so? What specific sentences and statements do you disagree with? Why do you think the article is biased, and who do you think it is biased towards? What is your personal view on transexuality? I need more information for anything to be done. Pbfreespace3 (talk) 01:07, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Am I crazy?[edit]

As you can currently see on the wiki page, I went a bit crazy with the citations needed. If you think one is over the top, feel free to get rid of one of the citation needed or find a citation for that. Urban dictionary might be a good place to start. ClickerClock (talk) 11:19, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Nah, I think it's fine. A lot of this article reads as very biased in favor of anti-transmedicalism. — Unsigned, by: 71.222.19.190 / talk

Tucute as a self-identifier?[edit]

I always thought that tucute was an insult made by transmedicalists, and that anti-transmedicalists didn't call themselves that. Also, transtrender, as it is defined by transmedicalists, doesn't apply to all anti-transmedicalists as some anti-transmedicalists are cis and some are transsexual. Snokw (talk) 08:14, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

@Snokw Tucute ("too cute") originated as a term invented by trans woman to counter Transmedicalism. It was a cute self-identifier only meant to annoy transmedicalists. Then truscum took the term and used it as an attack against any trans people who aren't truscum. You're right: the term "transtrender" only applies to so-called fake trans people. —ClickerClock (talk) 03:34, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

MRAs vs gender-related disorders[edit]

I was just casually reading this article and the following sentence stuck out to me:

"The existence of a medical condition known variously as transsexualism, gender identity disorder or gender dysphoria is not medically or scientifically controversial, although it is widely opposed by various religious groups, trans-exclusionary radical feminists, MRAs, the anti-psychiatry movement and Illuminati conspiracy theorists."

I don't need it explained to me why some religious groups, TERFs, the anti-psychiatry movement, and conspiracy theorists might oppose a medical diagnosis of gender identity disorder (there really ought to be citations for them anyway), but what are the grounds to include the MRAs in this list? This seems to me to be a completely unrelated issue for MRAs, and a glance at their rationalwiki page yields no information on their opposition to transgender people at all. It doesn't seem to me that there is a cohesive anti-transgender opinion among MRAs. What examples are there to demonstrate this, and should they be appended as a citation? And if there isn't a convenient or accurate source that asserts this, should MRAs be removed from this page altogether, not really having anything to do with transmedicalism? --72.190.102.39 (talk) 02:33, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

Evidence: We Hunted the Mammoth's blog category transphobia.ClickerClock (talk) 07:19, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
There is some conflation of undesirable qualities here. Surely some MRAs have opinions about transmedicalism. I imagine that most people, MRAs and feminists alike, can not even define it. Ariel31459 (talk) 15:49, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
Correct. Transmedicalism is mostly an intra-community drama within the trans community. There are cis people who identify as truscum however they cannot be truscum as truscum is a trans-only term. —ClickerClock (talk) 03:29, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

This article is horribly biased[edit]