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Wot - nowt about election day plane crash and Farrell bleating that he was frit? 212.85.6.26 (talk) 17:05, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Try here. Currently we only have the content that people have bothered to write. Wéáśéĺóíď^{Methinks it is a Weasel} 17:14, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

The crash isn't particularly relevant to RW. UKIP's appalling performance on the Guardian's litmus test is far more important to cover. ^moral 17:19, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

It lose the party votes - does anyone wish to vote for a party where someone loses his head rather than goes for stiff upper lip?

82.198.250.3 (talk) 13:23, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Apparently NF has a fear of flying (justified under the circumstances).

Anyone know anything more about the story that the pilot was variously threatening to kill NF and the policeman investigating the event? 212.85.6.26 (talk) 17:09, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Comparing with the BNP

I remember a blog post comparing the two on policies, finding out that they're really not that different at all. I think it was posted to WIGO but I can't find it. It was quite good, if anyone knows where it was or has a similar one, I think it'd be worth referencing. ^moral 17:31, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

The policies aren't much different. However, Ukip aren't actually Nazis, the BNP actually are. Ukip are also deeply and stupidly sincere and BNP are Nazi chancers. Johann Hari thinks there's little to nothing between them, I'm happy to take a slightly more nuanced view.

I remember an interesting discussion on Wikipedia with a Ukip supporter about the (proven and accepted by him as having happened) BNP infiltrations of Ukip, including BNP supporters bragging on Stormfront about how well they'd done. The Ukip supporter was outraged at the notion that Ukip could be anything like the BNP; and he and I hammered out a section that basically put Ukip as being stupid and barely competent, which seems entirely plausible to me, and that discussion is what I base the sentences here on BNP vs Ukip on - David Gerard (talk) 18:17, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

countries abolishing slavery before britain

The note in the race relations section is false. I am not claiming Britain was the first but we certainly did abolish slavery and the slave trade before Spain, Portugal, Mexico, and Greece. I would need to check some of the other countries claimed. you can say what you will about the many evils of the British empire and that we profited from the slave trade but I think we can be rightly proud that we abolished it when we did and took steps to stamp it out elsewhere. The quote the note is in reply to is patently ridiculous on its own merits without the disingenuous snark. AMassiveGay (talk) 19:47, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Something of interest is that for almost a century after mid-Elizabethan Age's explorations, it was decided that slavery was un-English/un-British. Of course, once it became realistic that they could make their way into the business (formerly dominated by the likes of the Spanish and Portuguese, with new interest from the Dutch), they jumped at the opportunity.-- 194.81.33.57 (talk) 19:50, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

I don't want to down play Britain's own shameful part in the slave trade, but credit given where credit is due. AMassiveGay (talk) 20:00, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

ec. further reading, the other wiki suggests most of the countries were behind Britain in this. The note is bullshit. I am removing it. If anyone has better information than me (entirely possible) they can put it back in. AMassiveGay (talk) 19:55, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Put in the dictionary under "наглост"

Section title by me.--ZooGuard (talk) 12:38, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Here is a blank page.Let's put some Real Information on it .

UKIP have won 27% of the voters in the 2014 MEP election voted for UKIP . They won the majority of the votes.They are in favour of leaving the EU .They also want controlled immigration . They are the only party who will not accept BNP supporters past or present as members of their party . They are planning to stand in the 2015 General Elections. They are currently writing a manifesto .^{— Unsigned, by: Thinkertailor / talk / contribs} 11:43, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

I can only imagine what that manifesto will look like after the ridiculous 2010 one --Drowninginlimbo (talk) 12:31, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

The page was blank because you wiped it.--ZooGuard (talk) 12:38, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

For those of us who have limited Cyrillic-literacy, what does the word transliterate as/mean? 82.44.143.26 (talk) 14:30, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

naglost, Bulgarian for impudence, insolence. The Russians have the same word, but they add a ь at the end which subtly changes the pronunciation, I assume. 141.134.75.236 (talk) 14:44, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

>27%

>majority

I sense Schlafly mathly. PacWalker 14:39, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

In a multi-party system with 2 major parties and a bunch of small ones, a previously small party hailing in 27% of the votes doesn't leave a lot %s for the major parties to claim the majority. And indeed, in the 2014 European Parliament elections, UKIP came out ahead of the Tories and Labour. Since being anti-EU is their main shtick while the other parties don't (or didn't before) have a strong stance regarding Europe, this turn of events isn't too surprising, though. It remains to be seen whether UKIP can prove itself a major competitor in the UK's national politics. 141.134.75.236 (talk) 15:13, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

So they took a plurality, which does not surprise me given the 27% figure. Also, does anyone else think that the EuP attracts way more wingnuts that national bodies in general, or am I just seeing a pattern where there is none? PacWalker 15:20, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Well, in national politics, the far-right parties tend to be the odd one out. But due to their pronounced anti-EU stance they can draw a substantial amount of votes during European elections, since a lot of Europeans feel disillusioned about the EU project. Some mainstream parties also try to ride that wave, but for a variety of reasons these attempts are usually not very successful. 141.134.75.236 (talk) 21:49, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

That might well be all. I dunno. I guess I'll look at numbers if I really must know who gets what where. PacWalker 21:52, 10 April 2015 (UTC)