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Title change

Is it possible to change the title of the page to Vladimir Lenin instead? Joseph Stalin is a page with the subject's full name, and I think this should be the same.

JoeS 02:10, 3 January 2009 (EST)

Done. Wėąṣėḷőįď^{Methinks it is a Weasel} 04:21, 3 January 2009 (EST)

I made a correction. Lenin was not denied his final request as punishmant, but rather because it interferred with Stalin's rise to power. Also, he did have a cult of personality, but in the same way the U.S.A. has a cult of personality for Washington or Lincoln, or Mexico with Benito Juárez or Miguel Hidalgo. Stalin was the one who made the cult of personality exponentially big. Also, the page does not adress exactly why he departed briefly from Marxism. The reason he did that was because he led Russia in the middle of a revolution and the civil war that ensued (with 21 armies invading the U.S.S.R.). Thank you. ^{— Unsigned, by: 189.253.83.1 / talk / contribs}

That was being a bit sarcastic. Your requests have been noted. Тy^No 23:06, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Trotsky

Lenin chose Lev Trotsky to succedor, were have you learned your history? 188.120.168.161 (talk) 15:56, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Lenin's role

The article seems to rather overstate the role of Lenin as the autocratic dictator. That image is certainly a popular one, but, ironically, it's actually part of the Lenin myth created by Stalin propaganda that turned his cult of personality into truly godlike veneration. In practice, before Stalin takeover, Soviet Russia / USSR was not ruled by a single man, but rather by committee (Sovnarkom - Sovet Narodnykh Komissarov - People's Commissioners Council). While Lenin was the chairman of the Council, it was, at the time, mostly a position of protocol. His voice was certainly considered very authoritative, more so than most other members (though Trotsky came pretty close, and there were other prominent figures), but he still had to convince the other members to agree with him, and he did not always end up in the majority and get his way. It was not until Stalin that Bolshevik hierarchy was stripped of all remaining vestiges of democracy and collective decision making, and truly reshaped into a bona fide dictatorship run by a single man. 50.135.227.104 (talk) 07:34, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Lenin electrified

How can [1] and Lenin's statement 'Communism is Soviet government plus the electrification of the whole country' be combined? 171.33.222.26 (talk) 15:31, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Lenin responsible for ash die back?

Or Lenin was a mushroom [2] - there is more on the other-language pages. 86.191.127.112 (talk) 21:44, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Merciless and Brutal

Oh no! He "mercilessly execut[ed]" Tsar Nicholas "the Bloody" after the poor little Romanoff had killed some 3 million Russians, leading directly to the revolution. Why didn’t he just send him to one of the Tsar’s katorgas (Siberian gulags - Stalin didn't invent those), or starve the guy to death while pouring the countries resources into faberge eggs and imperialist war. Also, he "brutally crush[ed] anarchist uprisings" because yes, it is most unjust to stop Makhno rolling into village after village expropriating all resources "in the name of the people" and raping all the women. There's a lot to criticise Lenin over, but there's no need to pretend his opponents were all sugar and spice. ^{— Unsigned, by: 50.135.227.104 / talk / contribs} Requesting thread archival (why?) Plutocow (talk)

Popular but dubious Lenin quote

I made a correction, the quote above the article attributed to Lenin could not be found anywhere within his collected works, even paraphrased, the source was a "celebrity personality types" site and was unreferenced, will finds something appropriate to replace it.^{— Unsigned, by: Blknoisemachine / talk / contribs}

Talk page posts are added at the end of the page, they have to have a fitting heading and have to be signed (add the this at the end of your posts: --~~~~)

The quote was also badly translated from German by the looks of it.--Kugelschreiber (talk) (mail) (block) 02:13, 7 June 2016 (UTC) 02:13, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Noted and thank you, Still getting to grips with wiki editing. --Blknoisemachine (talk) 02:27, 7 June 2016 (UTC)