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You[edit]

This was very kind and thoughtful of you. I know you felt unloved here for an act of wandalism, but your noted action shows your true colors, and why we always enjoy your visits. Oh <bad word removed>, I better check my user page... humanbe in 00:14, 2 August 2007 (CDT)

PAX? Keepit under your hat! 00:55, 2 August 2007 (CDT)

? Is that a secret code? ... Resident vandal 00:57, 2 August 2007 (CDT)

Olive branch Keepit under your hat! 01:11, 2 August 2007 (CDT)

Stop speaking in code/metaphors! I can't ever be sure of what is happening. Is PAX a word for peace? Olive branches represent peace right? If it is peace you want then peace you shall have! Of course, I extend my apologies for my comments and assure you I never thought about you personally when I made them. Resident vandal 01:16, 2 August 2007 (CDT)

Like it?[edit]

Always watching.....

Now you can't do anything without being seen....Eye See You

Stop scaring me! Resident vandal

Concentration camp[edit]

Firstly, nice pwn. Secondly, it is your RW mission to see these comments through. Karajou is correct and has the entire weight of the OED behind him. Go forth in the name of truth and non-absurd etymology! --Robledo 20:37, 2 August 2007 (CDT)

Thanks for the compliment. I try my best when pwning. I'll wait for RobS to join the discussion, and see what he has to say. Clustering illusionist 22:05, 2 August 2007 (CDT)
I found my source and saw my comments through. But why do you care about this? Bohdan 22:53, 4 August 2007 (CDT)
Bohdan has boogers! Oh, we care... humanbe in 23:05, 4 August 2007 (CDT)
? Bohdan 23:06, 4 August 2007 (CDT)

Gaah...[edit]

You're blank page is just asking to be pwnd.Eye See You 23:22, 2 August 2007 (CDT)

Go ahead. Clustering illusionist 23:44, 2 August 2007 (CDT)
very nice. I'm going to leave it up, without the eye of course. Clustering illusionist 23:52, 2 August 2007 (CDT)
I swear I'll stop with the eye eventually.....Eye See You 23:54, 2 August 2007 (CDT)
Thank goodness. Clustering illusionist 00:07, 3 August 2007 (CDT)
See "above" on my talk page, to you. humanbe in 23:49, 4 August 2007 (CDT)

Amazing[edit]

Are you actually supporting Conservative? --Linus(plot evil tech) 22:23, 9 August 2007 (CDT)

In what way? Bohdan
Or it may just be that you're supporting CP through him… --Linus(plot evil tech) 13:50, 10 August 2007 (CDT)

You keep using that word...[edit]

Whats your definition of fundamentalism? 24.141.169.255 00:31, 10 August 2007 (CDT)

A "literal-minded or intolerant philosophy with pretense of being the sole source of objective truth" taken from wikipedia article Bohdan 00:34, 10 August 2007 (CDT)
What aspect of atheism relies on "literal" interpretation? How does atheism fit in with the fact that fundamentalism is in opposition to secularism? What universal doctrine is required to adhere too? What ceremony or book encapsulates atheistic fundamentalism? 24.141.169.255 00:36, 10 August 2007 (CDT)
"Fundamentalism" is a religious perspective that takes its "holy book(s)" as the literal truth. Hence, it has no parallel in "atheism". By the way, are we "atheists" such a threat to your faith? Surely, we are a very small minority, and beaten on, at that. Whereas, Christians are a huge majority in the West, and yet, claim to be ostracized, marginalized martyrs. Bunch of bad word removed hypocritical whiners, if you ask me. humanbe in 00:47, 10 August 2007 (CDT)
I beg to differ. Bohdan 00:55, 10 August 2007 (CDT)

Time to lighten the mood! --transResident Transfanform! 00:53, 10 August 2007 (CDT) InViSiPwN!

Yeah! Bohdan
Yeah, sorry about the bad word, I should know better than to use such language on your talk page. I would be curious as to what the "fundamentals" are that "fundamental atheists" ascribe to - especially if they are in one book or small group of books. (And "not believing in gods" no more a fundamentalist makes than does "believing in god(s)", by the way) humanbe in 14:51, 10 August 2007 (CDT)

Something that just came to my mind...[edit]

I don't think I asked you that one, but my memory's somewhat garbled right now (I really need a vacation), so please excuse me if I accidentally poke you again.

Just an idle question I ask sysops for bad word removed and giggles as I encounter them: Did TK consult with you prior to my July 13 ban? He claimed that the majority of sysops agreed with his decision to ban me (prior to him banning me), but neither Ed nor Geo were willing to tell me whether or not TK had actually contacted them (or whether they agreed). So, how about you? I just wanna know if you're part of the silent majority. If you don't wish to reply, that's fine. You wouldn't be the first one. --Sid 14:30, 10 August 2007 (CDT)

You didn't ask me, and no, I was in no way involved with the decision. But that doesn't mean that the majority weren't. Bohdan 19:54, 10 August 2007 (CDT)
Thanks for your reply, I really appreciate it. And by now, the silent majority is either very silent or consists of fairly obscure sysops (compared to you, Rob, Geo, Ed, etc). :P --Sid 20:11, 10 August 2007 (CDT)
I, personally, like to consider myself obscure. Bohdan
Maybe my perception is (liberally) biased because you hang out here every now and then? --Sid 20:18, 10 August 2007 (CDT)

Ken's creationist wet dreams[edit]

Ken makes me spill my coffee on my keyboard. OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 23:21, 11 August 2007 (CDT)

Who is Ken? Spilling on your keyboard could damage it. I guess it is better than on your lap. Bohdan 23:23, 11 August 2007 (CDT)
Presumably Ken DeMyer, known to all and sundry as CP sysop Conservative, although he's tried rather ineptly to obfuscate that in the past. --Kels 10:04, 12 August 2007 (CDT)

block...[edit]

I blocked you for, like, ten million years, but meant it to be ten million nanoseconds. When I went to unblock you, I got a thing saying you was already. So, if you can't edit email me first, and I will fix it. Otherwise, obviously, you or Bohdan2 can ask any other sysop to repair the damage. Goatspeed! humanbe in 20:01, 12 August 2007 (CDT)

I'm also unable to unblock. GHammer and Sickle text gold.svgdlessLiberal 20:37, 12 August 2007 (CDT)
Oh, (expletive), we're (expletive)d! Our only hope is that the software won't "honor" or understand a block for 12345678791 months, and "ignored" it! Bohdan, Bohdan, wherefore art thou? humanbe in 21:00, 12 August 2007 (CDT)
what on earth is happening? Bohdan 21:05, 12 August 2007 (CDT)
Apparently, nothing we need to worry about. How did it feel to be blocked for ten million years? humanbe in 21:17, 12 August 2007 (CDT)
You're alive! GHammer and Sickle text gold.svgdlessLiberal 19:51, 13 August 2007 (CDT)
Massive correction to my Liberal Math. 1234567891 months is over a hundred million years. Keep that in mind as you ponder. It's still a lot less than Eternity, of course. When you get back, although the sun will still be there, I suspect the year will be up to 368-370 days, and the moon will be taking 31-32 days to make her lazy orbits. So the block is actually a little longer than you might have expected. humanbe in 20:06, 13 August 2007 (CDT)
A hundred million years? I like it even better. I am probably one of the only people, probably me and that guy at CP who you were copying, who have been blocked on a wiki for a hundred million years. It's better than infinite, because infinite takes no special effort. Bohdan 20:11, 13 August 2007 (CDT)


It does the heart good[edit]

To see man-love in action. --Kels 19:08, 15 August 2007 (CDT)

While I am glad to hear your heart is functioning good, I don't understand your comment. Is this because I object to calling conservative "Ken"? What proof do you have that he is Ken? Bohdan 19:10, 15 August 2007 (CDT)
OMG it's been proven as much as such a thing can be done...I can't find the link, but TMT has it, I think.--PalMD-Ars longa, vita brevis 19:12, 15 August 2007 (CDT)
How is your heart, doctor? Bohdan
Seriously man, when someone goes to that degree of willful ignorance in the face of all that's been said and demonstrated, and even gets into an edit war over it...there's something that goes one step beyond mere friendship... --Kels 19:14, 15 August 2007 (CDT)
I tell you again, I have seen nothing but speculation. And I really like edit wars. How did I get to be Conservative's "friend"? Bohdan
When you started watching his back...or perhaps...lower... --Kels 19:17, 15 August 2007 (CDT)
Why do you over-rely on these absurd/disgusting accusations? Please, end this conversation. Bohdan 19:19, 15 August 2007 (CDT)

Ken/Conservative[edit]

What would convince you?

Right now, we got...

  • They shared IPs
  • They both make up new names on a regular basis (Conservative, Creationist, Newton, David Jensen vs. Ken DeMyer, timothy44, LeCamus, kdbuffalo, moses's_bulldog, Creationist)
  • They both engage in quote-mining
  • They both share the exactly same interests (YEC, disproving evolution, etc.)
  • They both use the same style of debating
  • Ken copy-pasted Conservative's quote-mine article (or Conservative copy-pasted Ken's) at least about astronomy
  • Conservative invited Robert Turkel - Ken started his article on Wikipedia and was one of the main contributors

A major coincidence, I am sure.

Let's try a new approach (based on this wonderful comment - I just made a better permalink to a post and chose different example of the CP/CW connection):

  • Conservative (CP) is Creationist (CreationWiki) as per "Conservapedia" and "A small request" here
  • kdbuffalo is Creationist (CreationWiki) as per here
  • And this discussion covers the kdbuffalo/Ken link. Okay, and the part I mentioned on Newton's talk page (now archived) where both kdbuffalo and Ken DeMyer post the exactly same quotemine with exactly the same title, based on Creationist's CW article.

So we have Ken = kdbuffalo = Creationist = Conservative. --Sid 19:41, 15 August 2007 (CDT)

You forgot ~ = Kendoll = RW Resident Intestinal Parasite = Tapeworm = A great song by Pigface. humanbe in 19:51, 15 August 2007 (CDT)
Next you'll be bringing in things like moleeds just to get us all fukt in the heads. CЯacke® 21:41, 15 August 2007 (CDT)

Black hole[edit]

If you want to make an article like that please keep it in the ACD namespace. - Icewedge 13:46, 16 August 2007 (CDT)

Why? Bohdan
Because, it is spaming up the mainspace. It is clear that that article is not wanted, please stop. - Icewedge 13:52, 16 August 2007 (CDT)
Ah, but see I am a vandal. I am supposed to spam the mainspace. Bohdan
hmmm, he has a point... tmtoulouse pester 13:53, 16 August 2007 (CDT)
Alright, I have had enough. Bohdan
And the wheel keeps turning, the eternal struggle between vandal and janitor. tmtoulouse pester 13:56, 16 August 2007 (CDT)
Eventually I will slip it by you. Bohdan
Its a red queen race my friend. tmtoulouse pester 13:59, 16 August 2007 (CDT)
Yo! Please stop with the edit wars. - Icewedge 14:32, 16 August 2007 (CDT)
I am a vandal. I was given a special permit to do any vandalism I wanted. How many times do I have to explain it? Bohdan 14:33, 16 August 2007 (CDT)

I have to admit, you are being very polite about it. Bohdan

Well if your a vandal..... - Icewedge 14:48, 16 August 2007 (CDT)
Hmmmm, vandal wants to contribute? Hehehehheheheheheheh Hiya and welcome back tonight! humanbe in 23:38, 17 August 2007 (CDT)

CP maintenance[edit]

Since you're around fairly often, could you clean up TK's mess? His decision that Almost Every Word in a Title Needs a Capital Letter Because That is American Style is causing a complete mess (such as the recent decision that "Homo sapiens" is of course written "Homo Sapiens" and that "human" is a proper noun - which I'm sure will make CP look like a highly educational resource), but more importantly, it's creating tons of Double Redirects (the list is actually growing as I write this).

Could you fix them, please? I'd do it myself, but I'm banned, and I think some of those articles are protected, anyway. Besides, fixing TK's double redirects got fairly sad results in the past, so I'm not to eager to again engage the one guy who can even shove around other sysops as he likes. --Sid 06:41, 18 August 2007 (CDT)

Take hold of shotgun, aim at foot, pull tigger, Boom! Great work by TK! At this rate any need for vandalism will be obviated! Genghis Khant 09:10, 18 August 2007 (CDT)

While one cannot wish cp well, it's time Aschfly smacked his wrist. He's running it as if it was his own property - or has AS abdicated? Keep garlic for vampires 09:21, 18 August 2007 (CDT)

My guess is "silent takeover". At least, PJR reverted TK's edit that turned "human" into a proper noun. Let's see if TK retaliates to defend his edit...
Oh, and there are two redirects that broke when Ed deleted those articles. --Sid 11:27, 18 August 2007 (CDT)
Heck, I don't even capitalize "human" and I are one. Is, I mean. That Homo sapiens article is embarrassing. The genus is stilled uncapped in the photo caption. One thing workin' on a wiki reminds me (and us all, I'm sure) is how there is no way to ever be "always right". A lesson that is opaque to Mr. K.? — Unsigned, by: human / talk / contribs

Ouch=[edit]

Having to revert your own pwn..... tmtoulouse pester 23:19, 18 August 2007 (CDT)

I know, it hurts bad. Bohdan 23:20, 18 August 2007 (CDT)
ZOMG!!1! You were just beaten at your own game! ThunderkatzHo! 23:22, 18 August 2007 (CDT)
I demand that Thunderkatz be blocked for 30 seconds for interfering with my pwning! Bohdan

Thanks![edit]

...for adding the / necessary to unpwn my article :-). -αmεσ (!) 00:04, 19 August 2007 (CDT)

Blocking Bohdan for more time than there feasibly is in the universe for fun and profit[edit]

Feel lucky that I only blocked you for long enough for all of the protons in the universe to undergo proton decay - I hope that you've learnt something during all that time. Remember, I could have blocked you for 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
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0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 years, which is enough time for the thermodynamic clock to reset itself. You're on probation now. Have you got a writing plan? -- מְתֻרְגְּמָן וִיקִי שְׁלֹום! 16:37, 19 August 10000000000000000000000000000000000002008 CE (CDT)

Ha[edit]

No locked page can defeat a vandal....Locke Eye.jpg Always Watching...... 14:04, 20 August 2007 (CDT)

.....thginot eziladnaw ot tahw ....mmH:Locke Eye.jpg Always Watching...... 22:15, 20 August 2007 (CDT)

TK[edit]

Why does TK have so much power? He is actually Andy, isn't he? 23:24, 20 August 2007 (CDT)

Wait, why is your signature just the date? Bohdan 23:27, 20 August 2007 (CDT)
Why, he's time itself! CЯacke® 23:31, 20 August 2007 (CDT)
He is an IP.Locke Eye.jpg Always Watching...... 23:29, 20 August 2007 (CDT)
Dude, I would teach you, but you don't keep your word. 23:30, 20 August 2007 (CDT)
Oh, sorry. Bohdan
Use five. 23:32, 20 August 2007 (CDT)
? Bohdan
~~~~~23:39, 20 August 2007 (CDT)
Block TK, he is ruining your project. 64.22.116.138 23:39, 20 August 2007 (CDT)
Ahh, I see. You'll have to take complaints about sysops to one of the Bureaucrats I can't do anything about it. How exactly did I not keep my word? Is there something I need to do? Bohdan
Assassinate TK (figuratively speaking, of course). He has more blocks than most conservapedians have contributions. And he has all but dried up attracting new talent. 00:23, 21 August 2007 (CDT)
I am going to have to disagree with that. Bohdan 13:54, 21 August 2007 (CDT)
Of course. Wouldn't want your disagreement to get back to him.
Great, who am I talking to now? Bohdan
I think I might be Bohdan. That's the name on top of the page, anyhow. 14:07, 21 August 2007 (CDT)

<---Actually TK isn't much of a threat to newer users as he's busy consolidating his pwer and keeping other sysops in line. Oh, sure he'll get the odd range block in here and there, but mainly he's concerned with keeping the admins orthodox.St. CЯacke® 14:05, 21 August 2007 (CDT)

There are enough things wrong with TK's behavior that should have led to his ban months ago. The fact that he was instead promoted to sysop and went on to effectively become second-in-command boggles the mind.
I think that even with Martinez's baseball glossary copy-paste-orgy, TK has the most copy-pasted contribs from copyrighted sources. And when he's caught (like just yesterday about the NAS articles), there is denial, rewording, blocking of the ones who point it out, and claiming that it's all completely legal and within the rules.
Then there is the overall hostility, the blocking of most IP that posts here, pushing his nonsense rules, blocking people for violating rules that don't even exist yet, and and and.
I can't prove that he dried up attracting new talent (How would you prove that?), but I would love to see you showing how he attracts talent - most people don't even last long enough to show talent! (Heck, look at that Porthos guy. He became a victim of the TK/Ed tag team and is now heading towards a 1-week block fooor... pointing out that TK copied and for trying to clarify that the NAS is not a government agency - and he works for the Institute of Medicine, which is part of the NAS. I bet he'll be highly motivated to edit now!) They get banned the moment they point out an obvious mess-up!
However, I can understand why you defend TK. It's the same reason why Ed sides with TK 99.9% of the time: Terry is way up in the pecking order (because sysops like you let him get there), and when you edit on CP, it pays off to be on TK's good side. So I won't push this issue unless you want links or whatever. But if you really need links, take a closer look at "Best of CP" and "What's going on" - tons of those entries are related to TK. --Sid 14:14, 21 August 2007 (CDT)
I could care less about the CP "pecking order". I don't understand how I let him get way up on this supposed "pecking order", he was a sysop for weeks before I ever started editing at CP. Bohdan
It's less you personally, but the sysops overall. TK didn't suddenly seize power, he chipped off bits little by little, and enough people got banned trying to alert others. The sysops and Andy simply watched TK having his way again and again because he is a sysop and thus a "trusted top editor". Few sysops rarely tried to protest, but even they were stonewalled because Andy chose not to intervene.
And you should care about the pecking order - it may very well mean that the next time you tell a user that it's okay to change a few categories or something, TK will go all "Bohdan, send me a mail. We here at CP communicate about such major things, okay?" on your talk page, even though he somehow never has to ask anybody about anything (although he regularly claims that he solicited opinions... he just won't tell anybody who he asked). TK has more power and more say than any other sysop, and that does influence you. I just can't help it if you deny it because you don't feel horribly oppressed right now. I can only suggest that you watch him with open eyes. Then you might understand what we're talking about. --Sid 14:42, 21 August 2007 (CDT)
Like I said before, I am more of an obscure CP sysop. I don't really want to get involved with the controversies, I'd rather edit. Bohdan

In case anyone cares....[edit]

those templates with all them <big><big>etc consistently crash my firefox. --87.5.223.136 14:54, 21 August 2007 (CDT)

That statement seems almost... obscene. Please refrain from mentioning (or showing) your "firefox" (and other euphemisms) in public. ThunderkatzHo! 15:02, 21 August 2007 (CDT)
At least I'm not using such obscene words as "euphemisms", "refrain", "please" and "that". Shame on you! --87.5.223.136 15:08, 21 August 2007 (CDT)

Revoked[edit]

I have temporarily revoked the V due to the utter lack of wandalism. Locke Eye.jpg Always Watching...... 17:34, 22 August 2007 (CDT) You can do better than that. Locke Eye.jpg Always Watching...... 17:54, 22 August 2007 (CDT)

That made even me laugh, well done. Locke Eye.jpg Always Watching...... 17:58, 22 August 2007 (CDT) Oh, by the way, I may have to block you for one second for that.
Ahh, yes thank you for the block. You should look at my magnificent block log. Its steadily approaching infinity. Bohdan

So, did you like that block length?[edit]

Well? Locke Eye.jpg Always Watching...... 19:32, 22 August 2007 (CDT)

It was quite nice, but I think you forgot to specify how long it actually was. Bohdan 19:33, 22 August 2007 (CDT)
Hmm... I tried for: 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
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Probably not. Bohdan

So..[edit]

So, what's in your future now that you have steped down from being the Resident Vandal? Locke User is Vandal/sysop Always Watching...... 22:20, 23 August 2007 (CDT)

I am a black hole. I'll find something. maybe, just maybe, contribute an article. Probably not. B****n 22:22, 23 August 2007 (CDT)

Hey[edit]

Who does this look like? In any event, feed it to Andy. They just block me. 22:23, 23 August 2007 (CDT)

Who is it? B****n 22:25, 23 August 2007 (CDT)
According to that site, he is a pretty cool high school student (conservative rabel rouser). But the photos remind me of what GodlessLiberal looked like. GL removed his photos, so I can't do a side by side comparison. 64.22.92.56 22:28, 23 August 2007 (CDT)
Wow. Your right! I remember those pictures. The resemblance is there. B****n 22:29, 23 August 2007 (CDT)
Go ask an admin to undelete his photos so we can put this rumor to rest. The photos are

File:NolanChart70-0.png File:GLibPolComp.gif

Thanks. 22:33, 23 August 2007 (CDT)
Opps, sorry. Anyway, they are also both in "the south" though they claim different names and states. 22:36, 23 August 2007 (CDT)
Looks like the pictures are gone for good. B****n


How about I pay myself $5 to block You? Locke User is Vandal/sysop Always Watching...... 23:20, 23 August 2007 (CDT)

make it ten and you have a deal. B****n
I just paid myself pi million dollarz to block you both for pi nanoseconds. Oops, the blocks are over. That was fun. And I'm pi million dollarz richer. Wait a minute ... <confused> ... humanbe in 23:47, 23 August 2007 (CDT)

For you[edit]

Vandal.gif Sterileblah, blah, blah 14:50, 24 August 2007 (CDT)


Repressed Issues[edit]

It seems to me that you have some deep psychological issues with eyes, perhaps you should speak about it with Trent. Locke User is Vandal/sysop Always Watching...... 00:47, 26 August 2007 (CDT)

I've tried talking to him before, but I just can't do it. He's impossible. Bohdan
What, did you have a bad experience with an eye as a child? Oh, and just a word of advice, don't ever tell me to keep an eye on someone, cause, well, I'll literally keep an eye on them. Locke User is Vandal/sysop Always Watching...... 01:01, 26 August 2007 (CDT)
Hey, B, can you read Russian? (I know, the language of the imperialist conquerors) On a mailing list I'm on a guy asked: "I need someone who can read Russian. Someone has given me what looks like a lottery ticket, but I am not really sure what it is . . . I've taken digital pix front and back, and I'll e-mail them. I'd like to know exactly what this is." If you want to help, I'll either share your emails with each other, tell him to post the images here, or act as intermediary. Thankies! humanbe in 02:23, 26 August 2007 (CDT)
PS, GL pwned you!. At least you weren't looking for pictures of huey's bum....
I'd rather you didn't share me e-mail, but you could sure send it to me. I don't like Russian and its been a while, but I will try. Bohdan 21:01, 26 August 2007 (CDT)

Darn you[edit]

Darn you Bohdan, I wanted to see TK's reply to nadhoB's statement. Locke User is Vandal/sysop Always Watching...... 21:42, 26 August 2007 (CDT)

So that was you? Bohdan 21:44, 26 August 2007 (CDT)
Nope. Locke User is Vandal/sysop Always Watching...... 21:45, 26 August 2007 (CDT)
It had to be someone here. Bohdan 21:47, 26 August 2007 (CDT)
I'm sure it was, probly Human though. Locke User is Vandal/sysop Always Watching...... 21:49, 26 August 2007 (CDT)
Not me, I've never bothered to edit CP since the purge. I did see the comment though, and fell off my chair. Anyway, if it had been me I wouldn't have capped the 'B' at the end. humanbe in 22:07, 26 August 2007 (CDT)
Perhaps Bohdan, it was you..... Locke User is Vandal/sysop Always Watching...... 22:20, 26 August 2007 (CDT)
Perhaps you.... wait you already denied it. Bohdan 22:22, 26 August 2007 (CDT)
Hey, you never denied it....... I'm watching you Mr. B. Locke User is Vandal/sysop Always Watching...... 22:42, 26 August 2007 (CDT)
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Good point. It wasn't me. Bohdan 22:44, 26 August 2007 (CDT)
It would be the perfect plan though: Create a sock and question the evil dictator in training your superior, and then delete the question so no suspicion falls on you. Locke User is Vandal/sysop Always Watching...... 22:51, 26 August 2007 (CDT)