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::: Or possibly an acknowledgement that TK is pope of CP. --{{:User:JeevesMkII/sig}} 16:00, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 
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Professor Schlafly

Its Prof. Schlafly now.img AceX-102 22:34, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Professor "Shlafly" apparently. SJ Debaser 22:38, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
I suspect that this will subconsciously be a great conflict for Andy: we know he hates professors, but at the same time it would be an enormous boost to his ego to be called that. Decisions, decisions. Tetronian you're clueless 23:11, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Parodist. Scarlet A.pngd hominem 23:25, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Oh, naturally. But Andy may not notice. Tetronian you're clueless 23:56, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Sounds like a Brit, that has to increase the probability of bannination. --MarkGall (talk) 00:02, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
... or a promotion. --MarkGall (talk) 00:44, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
I took the liberty of WIGOing it. One of the few people to get Edit rights without actually working on a single article ever. --Sid (talk) 01:41, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
I read "Where do we post our answers for the American Government Curse" for a moment. It seemed fitting. ħumanUser talk:Human 02:30, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Also, "...the Writing course was cancelled..." Hmmm, we always wondered how Andy would handle grading "real" homework he had to read and comment on constructively. ħumanUser talk:Human 02:32, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
(Pedantry alert) I'd be willing to bet that the alleged "student" misspelled the word "canceled" on purpose. Tetronian you're clueless 03:27, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
How would you feel to know this student was someone you know well? Nutty Rouxnever mind 04:25, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Not even slightly surprised. Tetronian you're clueless 11:54, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Update: Andy fell for itimg. Tetronian you're clueless 03:29, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
I suspect the suspected "parodist"s parents' check cleared the bank. ħumanUser talk:Human 03:50, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
So the writing course did die a premature death (or was it aborted?). I wonder if Andy refunded the parents their $250. --PsyGremlin話しなさい 10:08, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Isn't referring to everyoneall lecturers in a university/college as 'professor' common in the US? Also probably in some parts of Asia. Not British AFAIK. However have to agree [1]img looks like a parodist although did they really pay money for this course? Nil Einne (talk) 10:22, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
At my Alma Matter, there was a "Professor" in our department that was the most favorite "Professor" there. However, since he did not have a Ph.D. he was not a "Professor" he was an "Associate Professor". Andy certainly isn't teaching college-level material anyways. --Eira OMTG! The Goat be Praised. 02:21, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

And so the indoctrination begins.

Andy might be in favour of classroom prayer, but it seems brainwashing is high on his agenda too [2]img. Any bets on how many marks you'd receive for saying the Dems would win the Nov elections? --PsyGremlinSprich! 11:39, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Might wanna check that link, Psy. 11:53, 4 September 2010 (UTC) SusanG Toast
I fixed it. TerrenceKoeckring (talk) 11:55, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Link seems to work ok for me and Capturebot picked it up ok. And the history tells me you didn't change it Terry. --PsyGremlinParla! 11:59, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Dunno what happened there. It was going to a non-existent page & the <capture> gave the same image. 12:11, 4 September 2010 (UTC) SusanG Toast
This image in fact 12:13, 4 September 2010 (UTC) SusanG Toast
He moved the full stop. - π 12:16, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Ah, ok, so I was wrong (it has been known to happen! :) ). Sorry Terry, my bad. --PsyGremlinSnakk! 12:21, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
No problem. TerrenceKoeckring (talk) 14:01, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Wow, are the homework questions really that error-ridden and poorly written? Just, wow. ħumanUser talk:Human 18:58, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Well, what did you expect for $250? Quality education? Btw, are we sure for definite that that application thing Andy submitted for state funding has failed? I wonder if he's figured out why, or is it just the "liberal's fault" again. --PsyGremlinPraat! 07:58, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
To be fair, the egregious errors aren't on the official homework page. The student must have copied an early draft. They are still full of stupid, of course. ħumanUser talk:Human 20:54, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Somebody check my math. The first question ("Superb analysis. Full credit.") lists the percentages as 40/20/20/10. That's only 90 percent, right? I counted it out on both my fingers and my toes. --98.204.160.254 (talk) 01:37, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
I also like thisimg: "Score: 37/40, plus 3, for a total of 40. With improvement you'll be doing very well." So much for liberal grade inflation. --Benod (talk) 16:41, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
My God! I live in the Third World, in a country whose education system is in shambles... where both the national and local governments -and society as a whole- pay constant lip service to "the importance of education", but don't move a finger to keep our schools from deteriorating even further (much less improve them). A country where teachers receive verbal orders from the Minister of Education to approve all students ("This year no student fails a course!") so that official statistics look good. I live in Education Hell. But what Schlafly is doing there would be laughed at in disbelief even by the abysmal standards of my local schools (and would force the poorly-paid school principal to disobey the Minister, fail Israel, and sack Andy). I have seen plenty of Conservapedia, but this is my first glimpse of Andy the "Educator"... hence the length and tone of this comment. --Xyr (talk) 13:36, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Texas? Nutty Rouxnever mind 17:06, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
lol --Xyr (talk) 20:43, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

It was obvious that he'd fail to cover more than a tiny fraction of his original ambitions, but now he's running out of questions by week two already? Come on, Andy, you don't want to let down all those eager parodists. Röstigraben (talk) 11:10, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Homework answers

Ok, I know we're not supposed to pick on the kids, but if thisimg is the kind of detail Andy expects from an answer, then the parents should demand a refund. "I believe the economy, government spending (which is related to the economy, but a bit different)" Jesus Christ! "but a bit different" It's fucking volumes different. Gah! Watching Andy teach is the anti-intellectual version of a Thailand sex holiday. It's still kids getting fucked. --PsyGremlinParlez! 19:09, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

I highly doubt any of them are real kids. Senator Harrison (talk) 19:31, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Tell that to the judge, senator. --GTac (talk) 09:01, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Although at least that student appears to have tried to use (or claims to have) polling to answer the who will win thing which is more then student one or two appear to have done Nil Einne (talk) 11:05, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Massive class

If Andy is bragging about having 70-odd (or merely strange) students, one would think he'd have made more allowance for them. (correct linky in Jack's post) Especially given the "high demand." --PsyGremlinTala! 13:59, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Am I being dense or have you pasted the wrong link? Jack Hughes (talk) 14:01, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Maybe this link. Jack Hughes (talk) 14:02, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Make your Fucking mind up, Andy

Wait a minute. Andy's claiming that people protesting against Tony Blair is "liberal censorship."img This being the same Tony Blair, who led that horrible, nasty Socialist Labour party back in atheist Britian. One would think from how orgasmic you were at the Tories win (before they shacked up with those nasty Lib Dems) that you'd be at the front of any anti-Blair protest. Or does the fact that he was Bush's bitch make him ok in your book?

Oh yes, and something you can reverse with a click of a buttonimg isn't censorship. Is poor widdle Andy-Pandy feeling all sowwy for himself? --PsyGremlinParla! 17:21, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

I just love "Liberal censorship, British style!" Sounds so funny. SJ Debaser 17:44, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
And that's not to mention that it happened in Ireland, not England, Scotland, Wales, or even N Ireland. SJ Debaser 17:47, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

PsyGremlin, that link was hysterical. He's so warped that he equates messing with his dying wiki blog with violent protests. --Leotardo (talk) 17:50, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

<pedant alert>Ireland is part of Britain. It is the United Kingdoms of Great Britain and NI. The islands are Britain, as in the British Isles.</pedant alert>Oldusgitus (talk) 18:50, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Ireland is not part of Britain. Ireland and Britain are two separate islands. The British Isles is the name of the archipelago of islands, Britain being the biggest island with England, Scotland and Wales on it, Ireland being the smaller one with Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland. The United Kingdom is the political Union between England, Scotland, Wales and N Ireland. The Republic of Ireland is a totally separate state from the United Kingdom and has been since 1922 when it became the Irish Free State. And Dublin, where the book signing took place, is the capital of the Republic of Ireland, not affiliated with the UK at all. SJ Debaser 19:20, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
I went to check up on all of this as well (as a fellow pedant) because I knew the "British Isles" refers to all of the islands in and around Great Britain (the island's name is Great Britain, not simply "Britain"). Thus, I suspected, that Andy was making a geological goof, the same as saying that someone in Japan represented European ideals. However, the term "British" has been divorced from geology and refers to the political body of the United Kingdom. Thus, all UK citizens are "British Citizens". This is also exemplified by the "British Islands" term used by the UK government for citizens from Jersey, the Isle of Mann, etc. Thus, the "British Islands" refers to all properties on islands that the UK controls, yes even North Ireland. All parties please reference: wp:Terminology of the British Isles. The WIGO as stated is the most accurate way to phrase the Andy fail. --Eira OMTG! The Goat be Praised. 19:57, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Politically Eire is a seperate entity and Northern Ireland, or the occupied counties if you prefer, is part of the UK. However Ireland, the island, is part of the British Isles, and a such is part of Britain in the same way that France is part of Europe. As is Britain. And in the same way that the Isle of Man is part of both Britain and Europe. Tasmania is part of Australia, the fact it is a seperate island does not change the geological fact. I am not talking politically, I am talking geologically. The fact assfly would neither know nor appreciate the difference between the geological Britain and the political Britain doesn't mean he was not (completely unintentionally) correct in refering to Ireland as part of Britain. The Island chain.Oldusgitus (talk) 20:21, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Surely you're referring to Atheist geology here, which Andy wisely sees no need to pander to. --Kels (talk) 21:07, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
The island chain is called "The British Isles" not "Britain". The major island of the archipelago is called "Great Britain", not simply "Britain". Thus, "British" as a term can only refer to the political identity of "The British Islands", a.k.a. the United Kingdom. Dublin where this event occurred is however squarely in the Republic of Ireland, and thus is in "Ireland" and would be "Irish". That Ireland the island is in "the British Isles" does not make it "British". That part of Ireland is recognized legally as in "The British Islands" does not make the Republic of Ireland British. The term "British" refers exclusively to the British Islands, not to the British Isles as a whole. If this is difficult for people to know or grasp, it's because it's tied up in hundreds of years of murky linguistic origins, and legality. The Venn Diagram located here explains this graphically.
All of this aside, ASchlafy is simply demonstrating the ignorance that most Americans have for the geography and political boundaries that actually exist in the world. And I don't think ASchlafy bothered for even 10 seconds to consider that perhaps the word "British" did not describe the people he were referring to. He probably thinks the events nonetheless also occurred in "England". --Eira OMTG! The Goat be Praised. 20:49, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
I'm not disagreeing with you really (or akjg either), I was just being EXTREMELY pedantic about this. The fact the modern meaning of Britain has come to mean the UK and the Southern (and some Northern) Irish, quite correctly, self-identify as non-British does not mean that in a warped and idiotic way assfly could be descibed as being correct. For entirely the wrong reason but then that's assfly for you isn't it?
You would only be being extremely pedantic if you were correct. The use of the word Britain or British, which is the word Aschlalfy uses, is not, in any sense, correct about a story happening in Dublin, the capital of Ireland. Ajkgordon (talk) 09:09, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Ajkg got there before me, but he is correct, and you are wrong. ASchlafy is absolutely wrong in his post, and there is no way to describe his statement as anywhere near valid. Again, "British" only applies to the "British islands", which does not include the Republic of Ireland, but does include North Ireland. --Eira OMTG! The Goat be Praised. 09:25, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
What utter bollocks. The only modern meaning of Britain is as a short-form of the UK, as in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. British refers to something of the UK. Try telling an Irishman that his country is part of Britain and you'll get glassed. Britain is not the same as the British Isles. Ajkgordon (talk) 20:52, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Also whilst Tony Blair may long ago have been a socialist<citation needed> he has never been a Liberal. WSC (talk) 21:47, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Correct. Just because all of the island of Ireland is part of the British Isles doesn't make all the people who live there British. AJK's "challenge" drifts in terminology, too. The thing to say to get yourself popped would be to call a citizen of Eire "British". And Blair may not have ever been a Liberal, but he's a liberal, right? Anyway, I suspect the whole reason Andy lurves him some Tony Blair now is the fact of Blair coming out as a Catholic after leaving office. Perhaps? ħumanUser talk:Human 22:19, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
In what way does my terminology drift? By the way, Éire is just the Irish word for Ireland, which is the state's name in English. That the name Ireland is sometimes used to mean the whole island, can be somewhat confusing but is normally evident when seen in context. Ajkgordon (talk) 09:09, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
When you said "tell an Irishman he is part of Britain". Substituting Britain for British shifts the meaning. And, yes, I drifted too and should have said Republic of Ireland, not Eire. ħumanUser talk:Human 20:50, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Hah! Well no - on both counts. Britain is a common and accurate shortened name for the UK and is rarely used to describe the island of Great Britain. Strangely though Great Britain is often used to describe the UK, as in GB car stickers or the Olympic Team GB. And the "Republic of Ireland" is a non-name. It is not a formal name of the state, which is Ireland. (There's an old story about a refused extradition request because of that but I can't remember what it's called.) Pedant's paradise! Ajkgordon (talk) 08:00, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
"Éire an teideal oifigiúil atá ar an stát as Gaeilge (as Béarla, Ireland) – leis an gcur síos oifigiúil Poblacht na hÉireann, (Republic of Ireland as Béarla)."[4] (emphasis in original) I would expect the Irish Wikipedia to accurately indicate the official name of the Republic of Ireland. --Eira OMTG! The Goat be Praised. 02:36, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Éire is also Irish for the island as well. "Ireland" is easily equivocated between the island itself and the republic. Again, the entire archipelago is a tangled mess of hideous terminology in the first place. --Eira OMTG! The Goat be Praised. 09:28, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Oh, I see it. An Irishman glassing you for calling him British. It would be so much easier if everyone just went back to the good old days of everything best being British with none of this independence nonsense. You all know it makes sense. Ajkgordon (talk) 09:25, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
I also believe in the US annexing the entirety of Canada, Mexico, and all other nations in the Western hemisphere, so when you say "American" the nationality aligns correctly with the geography. ;) --Eira OMTG! The Goat be Praised. 09:31, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Of, and I forgot to add, Hawaiians may be Americans, but they don't live in America. So we have our own version of the linguistic entanglements here in the US, due to "America" being shorthand for "the US", and American for US Citizen. ħumanUser talk:Human 22:21, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Which is something a lot of Mexicans, Brazilians and Argentinians would like to discuss with you, behind the bike shed. --PsyGremlinSiarad! 09:31, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Tony Blair may be a Schlafly liberal (but then, who isn't?) but he's certainly not a liberal in British political terms. He is a man who went from the far-left (supporting CND etc) when it suited him, to selling off public assets to such an extent that even Thatcher was shocked. The only cause to which Bliar was ever devoted was himself. He is, was, and always will be a total, self-serving cunt. –SuspectedReplicant retire me 22:30, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
"But then, who isn't?" Uh... Andy himself, and Phillis. I think that's the only safe call here. It's like "direct tax" defined in the US Constitution... we know it's limited to these two things because it's been explicitly stated to be those two things, and supposedly, it should encompass more, but we really can't say that anything is, because it's generally agreed that everything else isn't. I just had a stroke there from typing that out.
"He is, was, and always will be a total, self-serving cunt." Ah yes, and we come to the fundamental reason why both Andy and Bush like Blair. For them, it's like looking into a mirror, which is good, because they can't like anyone that isn't themselves. --Eira OMTG! The Goat be Praised. 00:09, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
And don't forget that lying, spineless, useless piece of cock-wipery that is the bliar is also a roman catholic convert who goes along with the divine inspiration explanation for some of his actions.Oldusgitus (talk) 06:20, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Apparently Andy made no mistake because egg-pelting is characteristic liberal British censorshipimg. Also, liberals don't resign or convert, therefore Blair is a conservative! I say all right wingers prove they're really conservative by resigning. --Night Jaguar (talk) 06:57, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

So what does it make a person if they resign their post as a homeschool teacher and convert from Christianity to Wicca? My head asplode. 86.131.215.160 (talk) 12:24, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Liberals don't convert! better not tell him about this list I found... Totnesmartin (talk) 12:36, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
You forget, Andy has to defend Bush's Bitch, seeing as he joined in the "Coalition of the Willing" along with... let's see... Costa Rica, Lithuania, Rwanda, Tonga, Uzbekistan... thus expect any number of rationales by Blair was conservative and not the leader of a bunch of socialists... with very Thatcherite ideas, mind you. And as for converting to Catholicism after he left office, "Blair is deeply religious—the most openly devout political leader of Britain since William Ewart Gladstone more than 100 years ago."[5] So he was religious whilst in office. I guess that makes him ok in Andy's book. --PsyGremlin講話 12:49, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Try telling an Irishman that his country is part of Britain and you'll get glassed. Britain is not the same as the British Isles. Well said. What idiot has been saying otherwise? I'm from the island of Ireland, across the sea is the island of Britain. Together we comprise the British isles (We don't like mentioning that. We just refer to ourselves as from 'north western Europe') When talking about Irish affair you do not say 'British' you say 'Irish'. Anyone who does so is painfully unaware of what goes on in the wider world and would be better off curling up into a corner and dying. respectfully. MarcusCicero (talk) 13:44, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
"What idiot has been saying otherwise?" Go all the way back to the OP - Andrew Schlafly has. ħumanUser talk:Human 20:52, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Context suggests to me that "glassing someone" refers to embedding a large glass object into their head. If this is the case, can RW afford a plane ticket to Ireland? Then we can just let nature run it's course... --Eira OMTG! The Goat be Praised. 20:54, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
A mate of mine saw the popular beat combo Bloc Party in Dublin, just after they'd finished their U.S. tour. The greeted the crowd with "It's great to be back in Britain!". Oh dear. DeltaStarSenior SysopSpeciationspeed! 21:46, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Ho-hum

Ok, so it's more Terry Koeckritz bullshit, but in the absence of a Sunday insight, it'll have to do.
User RepublicanGentleman corrects the spelling of Stephen Hawking's name. TK reverts the edit.img Then TK realises he's made a mistake and goes back to RepublicanGentleman's version,img then he apologises and adds a wikilink.img (!!!) 'Only then does he send the luckless editor packing. So yet another editor driven away by the TeaKake shuffle. --PsyGremlinПоговорите! 22:56, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

What a dick. JoeFerguson (talk) 23:09, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Srsly. What a douchenozzle.img Oh, and I see LyleT finally got 86'ed.img For what he gets called a liar from the King of Trolls and Liars is beyond me. Andy really needs to starting paying attention to this truly destructive person driving anyone and everyone away from his blog, especially when the students are around. Nutty Rouxnever mind 23:15, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Next user to be blocked: right hereimgSuspectedReplicant retire me 23:45, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
"I take it you saw the proposed changes page?" - Anybody fill me in what TK means by that? (It's from Nutty's Vietnam talk page link) --Sid (talk) 00:10, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
I'm fairly sure it's consistent with Ed Poor's distaste for people doing any substantial editing until they've proven themselves and that the "proposed changes page" is the article talkpage. Indeed "you most certainly are not at Wikipedia, Jake." Nutty Rouxnever mind 00:34, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
...and Derek's question gets oversighted. Wonder why an old-timer was risking a MYOB ban backing up some concern troll in the first place. --MarkGall (talk) 01:20, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Ah, TK clarifiesimg: LyleT was blocked because RobbieG added the flying kittyimg to cp:Cat, and TK didn't like itimg. --MarkGall (talk) 01:35, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
"Alter of science" - illiterate prick. Redchuck.gif ГенгисIs the Pope a Catholic? 02:32, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
His trolling is so obvious. --Onion Hi! :) 02:34, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Where's the alter of science bit? Nutty Rouxnever mind 02:59, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
TK trolling Lyle's talk pageimg after the affair of the flying chipmunks a few days back. --MarkGall (talk) 03:03, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Singularly unpleasant person. Nutty Rouxnever mind 03:09, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
And *poof* the fairy godfather makes Lyle's page vanish. --PsyGremlinParla! 13:30, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Don't tell me.

Seriously?img

First Obama's a Muslim, now he's an atheist...WTF. Fox News and Conservapedia go great together. RascalJack (talk) 08:22, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

They're both the same thing to fundies. Vulpius (talk) 08:29, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
That's Ken, not Andy. Tetronian you're clueless 15:18, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Ken has never been a fan of the "Obama is a Muslim!!!" vibe on CP. Even made a few posts in TZB about it. --Sid (talk) 20:09, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

TK and Skype

Unless TK purposely added the Skype thing just for fun, it seems obviously he? must have the Skype plugin. So why's he denying it? Is he just incompetent (perhaps installed Skype and then uninstalled it and didn't realise the plugin was still there) or is he hiding it for some reason? Perhaps he uses it to communicate with liberals on the sly? Nil Einne (talk) 09:55, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Because then he'd have to admit he made a mistake and apologize? Because he's a pathological liar? -- Nx / talk 10:08, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
See also Conservapedia_Talk:What_is_going_on_at_CP?/Archive196#.28Revamped.29_Palin_WIGO -- Nx / talk 10:14, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. Looking a bit more, I see there is some suggestion RWers have talked to TK on Skype before Conservapedia Talk:What is going on at CP?/Archive195#Pakistan flood and Andy's idea of "order" again... although I'm not sure if that's serious or a joke. Perhaps he was traumatised by the experience and wiped Skype from his memory. It seems TK isn't the only person to be affected by this bug [3]img, may be that's the real issue, he's been talking and more to Ken about 'personal matters' (if you get my drift) on Skype and doesn't want people to know? If anyone did talk to TK on Skype did you notice the stains? Nil Einne (talk) 10:54, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

ROFL. One moreimg from TK, who doesn't have the Firefox Skype plugin. Nosir. Nutty Rouxnever mind 16:07, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

ROFLMAO!!!! Thankfully, TK doesn't have that firefox skype extension. Otherwise, I'd have never known that the number for the US congressional switchboard was 1-877-SOB-U-SOB by googling that phone number he never inserted. Punky Your mental puke relief 23:24, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Someone just called TK's addition vandalismimg. Uh-oh. ~SuperHamster Talk 00:16, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
The answer, of course: How dare you remove my skype highlighting?!?!?!?img Lord of the Goons The official spikey-haired skeptical punk 01:55, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
What the hell - he reverted Espelling's edit, then fixed it himself. ~SuperHamster Talk 02:02, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
And then oversighted the whole thing so as not to embarrass himself. Or his skype highlighting. Lol. Oh TK, how you make me laugh! Punky Your mental puke relief 02:09, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Andy Maths

Question what does 39 + 4 equal? Answer 44. Jack Hughes (talk) 14:07, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Not exactly out of step with the rest of his marking though. MaxAlex Swimming pool 14:58, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Also, 40 + 20 + 20 + 10 = 100. And how can listing four made-up numbers be "superb analysis"? Cantabrigian (talk) 14:59, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
What the hey, I've WIGOed it. My favourite bit is that students of the Assfly deem it acceptable to write drivel like "If, by some act of God, (Which, Ironically most liberals don't believe in) ..." in an assignment about government and economics. DeltaStarSenior SysopSpeciationspeed! 15:05, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Cue dreadful puns along the lines of con-sum-ed, con-sum-ation, con-sum-ate... — Unsigned, by: 82.44.143.26 / talk / contribs
From his vast class of 60 odd students, or however many he said he had, 4 homeworks seem rather a paltry haul. I guess the Assfly just isn't cut out for the internet. --JeevesMkII The gentleman's gentleman at the other site 18:34, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
It's a clear as 2+2=4. Open your mind. Barikada (talk) 19:51, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

39 + 4 DOES equal 44, because that damn british, and therefore LIBERAL, Douglas Adams clearly invented the nummber 42 as a way to distract more people from god by thinking 42 is THE answer rather then GOD. If you opened your mind, you would know this --Thunderstruck (talk) 20:14, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Actually the result is correct; the error is in the extra credits, which should be 5. Compare the 40+20+20+10 student. (By the way, there's no reason why that sum should equal 100 - there may well be other factors influencing the election. Maybe the student should have made that explicit by adding "Other: 10%". Of course the superb analysis still consists of pulling numbers out of thin air.) I'm more surprised by another inaccuracy: Last time I checked, there were two independents in the Senate. I haven't seen any of the pupils mention them, yet all answers regarding the Senate were rated "correct" or "good". 77.176.76.230 (talk) 00:53, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
The question #2 addresses those nasty so-called independents by stating: "Include the Independents in the Senate in the Democratic totals because they vote for the Democratic leadership." I can only repeat Barikada's remarks. --Xyr (talk) 01:22, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
"There's no reason why that sum should equal 100" - well, apart from the instruction: Ponder how much "weight" or emphasis to give each consideration (with the totals adding up to 100%). There are no unknown factors! Cantabrigian (talk) 10:47, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Reading fail on my part concerning the independents. I'm so embarrassed. But the election factors are debatable: The student is asked to first list all the factors (adding up to 100%), but for question 1 he's only asked to list the top factors. 77.176.66.205 (talk) 21:01, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

First of all, it was a typo, not an addition error. Second, it wasn't even a typo in the final score but rather the number of extra credit points. Just spitting out "OMG!! He hit a wrong button!! AndyFAIL!!! Hahaha!" is pathetic. Make fun of the things he does that are actually idiotic. For example, he gave full credit for the final bonus question even though the answer had nothing to do with it: Q: What tactical change could one of the parties make? A: The economic stimulus could work. "Excellent point." Just throw in a reference about godless liberals and the rest doesn't matter. Kalliumtalk 19:12, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Conservapedia and Witchcraft

Do they seriously believe in witchcraft? Quote from a Conservapedia page on Harry Potterimg: "The books also present witches and wizards as being both normal people and abundant. This deceit causes children to likewise accept magic and witchcraft as normal, and they identify with the children in the books, again furthering their acceptance and witchcraft. The reality about magic - that witches are evil and, thankfully, not common - is not presented." Are they really this crazy? It reminds me of Jesus Camp, which might make it worthy of a poll. --BradT (talk) 20:58, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Smells like poe to me. --Onion Hi! :) 21:01, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
That TK guy and I think Jpatt have tried to make it sound like witchcraft is real and harmful by undoing to previous posts. Example of TK undoing.img Note how he says "Personal opinion, not supported by any citations" when he changes it back to what it was. I think it's clear where he stands on witchcraft. I know it's a poe, but it's still quite funny. --BradT (talk) 23:07, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Might be a Poe, but a lot of the Religious Right actually do believe in such things. I do recall the hysteria when the Potter books really took off, and I doubt a lot of them were kidding. --Kels (talk) 23:46, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
And that's why I think it's funny! TK pretty much did an undo and made it say that Harry Potter was harmful to children, taken seriously or not. I think TK (CP administrator) seriously believes in witchcraft. --BradT (talk) 23:59, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
No, he doesn't. He's a powerhungry troll. Reverting edits of the lowly unannointed at CP is part of his religion. Nutty Rouxnever mind 00:49, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
CP truly does attract the wackos doesn't it? Thanks for the info. What about Jpatt? I think I saw him undo the Harry Potter page to TK's last setup twice. Is he trolling too? I can't tell what the administrator's agendas are on this site (It's either supporting religious scripture or trolling). They and everything else on the CP site is complete poe to me! --BradT (talk) 01:21, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
They each have fairly comprehensive pages, if somewhat outdated, here on RW. In short, JPatt's likely not a parodist, just an arch-Catholic of middling intelligence. Karajou's a hillbilly moron. TK's a parodist. Ken's... Nutty Rouxnever mind 02:15, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

I admit I haven't bothered to double check but I believe the Old Testement mentions witches - and even prescribes stoning for them. Bad look Hermione. StarFish (talk) 06:27, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Now I have checked. It's here and it's not stoning. You can kill them anyway you like. "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. Whoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death. He that sacrificeth unto any god, save to the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed." (Exodus 22:18-20) StarFish (talk) 06:29, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
I would go back to the original text to really understand that verse because witch may not be the best translation. Don't forget that the KJV was translated when witches were a hot topic. The meaning of witch might have been different in the Middle East two millennia earlier. Redchuck.gif ГенгисIs the Pope a Catholic? 10:02, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Science has saved us again. Don't worry, the spells in Harry Potter don't work! Experiments have proved it. X Stickman (talk) 15:33, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Not sure whether the comments in that article are serious or not, but some CP editors certainly have argued seriously that HP promotes real world Satanic witchcraft. See this debate (which I think has since been deleted from CP) in which StevenM, who I think is/was one of Andy's home-school students & apparently not a parodist, argued this point very earnestly. Fun times. ЩєазєюіδWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 17:24, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

More shameless plagiarism from the TrollKing

Thisimg stolen without attribution from here and any of the sources here. He even puts in someone else's reference as if he ever even looked at the article itself. It's nicely ironic that lies, arrogance, deceit, hypocrisy, stupidity, and whining are in the included list of "Liberal Characteristics and Traits." Nutty Rouxnever mind 22:43, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Does he really believe that switching and removing words here and there is going to fool everyone? ~SuperHamster Talk
I suspect he doesn't care whether anyone's fooled because neither Schlafly nor any of the other admin over there have the sack to take him on. His task is nearly complete. Nutty Rouxnever mind 23:15, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
I doubt Andy even checks his work for plagiarism (or anyone's work, for that matter, including his students'). Tetronian you're clueless 23:41, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
He never did. But the thing is that he doesn't even listen when people actively alert him to it. He draws a conclusion first (which then becomes The Truth) and then disputes or just ignores anything that disagrees with The Truth. He made up his mind WAY back in 2007 that TK is indeed a trustworthy fellow, so no matter what happens, he knows that this is the truth, and everything else is either just a conspiracy against him or part of TK's cunning double-agent plan to fight liberals. You know, like people repeatedly showcasing his copypasting both on CP and RW... or TK leaking the entire SDG to the public... or the screenshots of diffs and AIM discussions... or the countless (T)WIGOs about his obvious lying... Yep, it's all good. After all, TK said so. --Sid (talk) 00:04, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
And reposting those Bob And George links from a previous TK-related discussion since they're still damn fitting: "Totally trustworthy." and "Not even hiding it anymore." --Sid (talk) 00:10, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Not even worth a new thread. What happens to the person who calls the Skype-garbageimg TK added (no of course he doesn't have the Skype plugin, no) vandalism?img Nutty Rouxnever mind 00:26, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

I mentioned that in the relevant thread above (not that it really matters) - anyway, it seems that TK ignored it. Wise choice, for once - TK stirring up something would be fruitless at this point. Oh, and a user just re-created the article "List of Obama First Family Vacations"img, and states in their edit summary "Replaced vandalized article", in reference to the original article being deleted (and guess who deleted it?). ~SuperHamster Talk 01:24, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
I has been scooped. Nutty Rouxnever mind 02:12, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
I'm starting to think that half these new "users" TK blocks are merely socks of TK that he creates in order to justify his existence on CP. Also, have you noticed, that whenever there's a massive bot attack on CP, TK is nowhere to be seen. Strange for the guy who can leap out from behind a cursor and block and editor for sneezing, no? --PsyGremlin말하십시오 02:17, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Hah! That's exactly what I've been thinking! FJF (talk) 02:26, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

I went to the links at the top of this post. None of them made sense in the context of the links. ħumanUser talk:Human 04:06, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

FUCK YOU, ED POOR!!! FUCK YOU!

Ed Poor, I've always suspected that you were a mindless, bigoted, piece of shit. But now you've finally gone on to show just what a pathetic cunt you really are.img Oh, so the media scared Americans to death did they?? Maybe they had good cause to? Or are the 10 million AIDS sufferers in Africa all homosexuals and druggies??? Or don't they matter, because they're not Americans? You fucking mindless piece of human trash. I honestly hope AIDS strikes close to you, then you'll have to decide if they were gay or druggies. You fucking cunt. I spit on your grave. --PsyGremlinParlez! 07:13, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Ed is barely sentient enough to comprehend that. A total waste of perfectly good rage that was.--Brendiggg (talk) 10:26, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Take a look at the source. Uncle Ed is just on his NARTH/Reparative Therapy trip again, trying to cure those poor gays from their unwanted condition. --Sid (talk) 10:32, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
And I see from the APA WIGO that he's indeed on a NARTH binge again. Yes, NARTH is a reliable source to summarize APA. But notice how APA's position on NARTH is nowhere to be found in their NARTH article... hmmmmm... But then again, the American Psychological Association is just some small unscientific organization while NARTH is a much more reliable source, right? --Sid (talk) 10:50, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
It's only when reading your comment, Sid, that I realised that 'APA' stood for the American Psychological Association. It's already WIGO'd that Ed started the APA article with a period, and that's all, but even the current entryimg is merely a sentence basically denigrating them, without actually saying who 'they' are. Encyclopedic entry, indeed. 92.6.218.173 (talk) 11:32, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
I like the "FUCK YOU!"'s in the header. It reminds me of Step Brothers when Will Ferrel is sitting at John C. Reilly's drum kit and shouting, "FUCK YOU, DALE! FUCK YOU!" Or John Travolta driving Uma Thurman around while she's OD'ing in Pulp Fiction, shouting into his phone, "fuck you, Lance, answer!"
Also, more to the point of the thread, yes, Ed Poo is despicable. SJ Debaser 13:07, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Right now, Ed is top of the list of people that I want to pay Ace to flatten. He is scum - even more so for probably not having a clue why his moronic statements would make me angry. I'm waiting for him to jump on the "beetroot and garlic can cure HIV" and "AIDS is not a syndrome" bandwagons. And I still spit on your grave, you cunt. --PsyGremlinHable! 13:27, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
As a teenager in the Eighties, I must have not gotten this memo of being scared to death and possibly dropping dead at anytime from the media, unless of course it didn't happen. :P As for Ed, I cannot take anything seriously from a guy who worships some old Korean shister as some sort of savior/messiah of the human race. --BMcP - Just an astronomy guy 14:21, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Reliable sources inform me that 95% of everyone ever associated with NARTH are, in fact, closeted homosexuals. Occasionaluse (talk) 14:29, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

The ability to discount the suffering of "others" has always been a hallmark of religion and conservatism. Once it's "US" against "THEM", we can dehumanize anyone for any reason. By placing all HIV/AIDS sufferers into the "other" group [insert your own group at will], we needn't even think about them as people. Progressivism allows us to see the "others" as maybe just a little like "us", and allows the entry of human compassion. Shame on you Ed. Jimaginator (talk) 20:59, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Ironically Ed may be right

I'm a biologist, not a psychologist, but ev. psych does seem to be casting doubt on the disease model of mental illness in many cases, pointing out how it is often traits that are adaptive in different environments that lead to disharmony (and that a certain level of disharmony is to be expected, but that is more from the ev. theorists than the ev. psych people). The Irony part is that doubtlessly Ed feels that less disease and more sin is needed to explain the problem when the reality is that the problem with the disease model is that it is too closely based on the sin based medicine system of the past. --Opcn (talk) 07:48, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Psychology typically only recognizes a condition as "clinical" or a "disease" once it impairs or effects ones life or the lives of those around them. Simply being sad isn't a clinical condition. Being sad all the time is not a clinical condition. However, being so sad that you are unable to take care of yourself, most definitely is a clinical condition that requires medical intervention. Similarly, being an alcoholic doesn't automatically make it a problem. Once it is a problem, then you need the help to get out from it. In the same way, I suppose if we treated homosexuality along these lines, "come to us psychologists only if you're having issues with it," the APA wouldn't have a problem with reparative therapy.
However, it continues and remains to be that those practicing reparative therapy refuse to consider alternative treatments when the reparative therapy itself is not working. Forcing a patient into a specific course of treatment to the exclusion of all others as possibilities is the precise reason why reparative therapists have had ethics violations, and this thinking and pattern is so pervasive that the APA now asserts that any clinician practicing reparative therapy is violating ethical standards.
So, again, the problem with NARTH and reparative therapy is not actually in the actual theory, but in the practice... just like with any religion. --Eira OMTG! The Goat be Praised. 23:11, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Zen reflection on Kabuki

Once it looked like this
Now only a stub remainsimg
Concise, the site grows. --PsyGremlinParlez! 15:22, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

*applauds* Tetronian you're clueless 16:47, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Six thousand bytes
Reborn as seven hundred
Kotomi weeps.
(poetic, I'm NOT) 17:29, 7 September 2010 (UTC) SusanG Toast
Haiku fail from the both of you... Occasionaluse (talk) 18:13, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Never claimed it was a Haiku. 18:23, 7 September 2010 (UTC) SusanG Toast
Just clumsily putting together an almost-haiku stanza with no rhyme or reason. I get it. In that case, good job!!!
too proud
to see fail
you own
Occasionaluse (talk) 18:35, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Andy: "We're concise!
And we're growing rapidly!"
Somewhere, logic cries.
-- Tetronian you're clueless 17:49, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
A heavy rain falls:
Her name blackened by CP,
Truth weeps for the world.
SuspectedReplicant retire me 18:30, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Solution found to
the "perpetual September":
block the whole planet.
--wwwwolf (barks/growls) 21:42, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

His frenzied keyboard
Misquotes Darwin and Einstein
Explaining nothing
The Real James Brown (talk) 00:27, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Ed spanks TK... twice

Once for being cruel to n00bsimg.

And once for postingimg a shitimg story on Mainpagerightimg. Countdown to Terry Koeckritz revenge in 10... TerrenceKoeckring (talk) 16:54, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

I was perplexed also. Who were the liberals supposed to be? The trespassers or the law-enforcing gun owner? The students or the teacher? Everyone? I know Andy could figure it out, but it's still pretty odd. The Truth(TM) is that TK (with nothing to add to the project, but desperate to justify his existence) just throws up news stories. If he can't find one that bolsters the CP agenda, then whatever. He simply feels he needs to do something, and it actually works. Occasionaluse (talk) 17:11, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Since it was a public school teachers, & public school students, either or both are clearly at fault. Presumably this was supposed to be posted as an example of public school values. ЩєазєюіδWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 17:42, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
"Ed, how dare you disagree with me in public?!?! Contact me behind the scenes, as is normal for a public wiki! Oh, and it's impossible to add a news item at a lower-than-top slot, duh!"img Didn't even bother with the cutesy "Professor Poor" crap - Ed is so screwed. ;) --Sid (talk) 21:31, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Man, never thought id feel bad for ed, or ANY CP sysop. That TK is going crazy, a little more each day. How long before TK stages a Coup d'état and overthrows Assfly? — Unsigned, by: Thunderstruck / talk / contribs
That'll never happen - TK is a puppetmaster, pulling strings behind the scenes. He will manipulate useful people in private chats, and anybody who somehow shows how much of a fool he is will be trampled down. At this point, challenging Andy would be a step down - he has reached the point where he can openly (and repeatedly) troll the entire community without any ill effects, so why would he want to stop? --Sid (talk) 22:04, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Another great example of Playing the Victim when Queried. "If you had bothered to read the story link" indeed. Terry Koeckritz, you're a lying toerag. I suggest you pray for forgiveness next time you're on your knees. TerrenceKoeckring (talk) 22:11, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
I don't see Terry Koeckritz winning out here. Ed Poor is definitely higher-ranked than the Team Killer (he's a lot closer to Pope Andy). And honestly, TK isn't a "puppetmaster" - I don't even think he's that bright. The reason TK gets away with being an asshole isn't due to some genius manipulation, it's because Andy doesn't care about any part of the site other than what he's currently working on. Colonel of Squirrels禁止不是法西斯 23:31, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
He isn't a genius puppetmaster, but he is a very experienced internet troll. Being the unpleasant lietenaunt on odd websites is evidently is main hobby. I hope he goes for Ed, but we won't get to watch very much of it - at least until the next discussion group leak. Broccoli (talk) 00:39, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
I wouldn't say that Ed Poor "outranks" Terry Koeckritz -- Ed is harder working, better liked, and personally much closer to Andy, but TK is the one who can claim credit for making CP what it is today, and since Andy likes the status quo, he wants to let Terry Koeckritz think he is the genius. Anyway, one single loss for TK is a huge blow to his ego and his clout, while Ed has nothing big at stake unless he himself wants this to get bigger than it needs to be.--CentimeterINCHES 02:29, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
I like Centimeter's analysis because it explains why TK acts like such a little bitch and makes things worse when his shenanigans get called. Nutty Rouxnever mind 02:55, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
TK is just a bully. Unfortunately (for him) bullies only succeed when they have the upper hand. In a one-to-one situation they can usually intimidate their target, that's why TK (Senior Admin) always want to take things behind the scenes. In a group situation, if TK is in the wrong, he is outnumbered so has to play the injured party. Really, the example of this are almost innumerable. Redchuck.gif ГенгисIs the Pope a Catholic? 03:19, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Best analysis yet, which is regrettably true. ~SuperHamster Talk 03:26, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

It couldn't last. Ed bends overimg and tries to relaximg. TerrenceKoeckring (talk) 13:43, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Ed Poor begs TK for his "indulgence". What does that even mean? ONE / TALK 14:58, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
It means a guy with a 95 IQ is patronizing a guy with a 90 IQ. Nutty Rouxnever mind 15:19, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Or possibly an acknowledgement that TK is pope of CP. --JeevesMkII The gentleman's gentleman at the other site 16:00, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
That's world class obsequiousness. Andy must have turkey slapped Ed after TK did some behind the scenes penile engorgement on Herr Schlafly.--115.118.55.88 (talk) 16:30, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Rangeblocks. ...

Is this actually a /16? Nutty Rouxnever mind 02:03, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Er. Yes. --JeevesMkII The gentleman's gentleman at the other site 03:26, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
How so? Nutty Rouxnever mind 04:45, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Speaking of blocks... 8 September 2010 (Block log) TK (Talk | contribs | block) (check) changed block settings for BenHur (Talk | contribs | block) (check) with an expiry time of infinite (account creation disabled, e-mail blocked) (Unused account with no edits for several months).
"Unused account"?? This user came on board August 2007 and made several hundred edits. His last edit was in November 2008. Why block him now? In other news, due to editing/account creation being mysteriously shut off at odd times, Andy has limited access to this function to a "security" group of 3 trusted Sysops now headed by... wait for it... TK. LOL! Fred4T (talk)
The Class B address space was from 128.0.0.0/16 - 192.255.0.0/16, however an individual Class A (usually a /8 address space) can be sliced up into further networks. For example, The Class A address range 94.0.0.0/8 can be sliced up into 255 subnetworks from 94.0.0.0/16 - 94.255.0.0/16 Update: To be more clear... he blocked any address within the range 94.0.0.0 and 94.0.255.255, so thus by plain definition, it must be a /16 I mean... it's a tautological statement. It's like asking "Is 2 actually a 2?" Corrected --Eira OMTG! The Goat be Praised. 07:58, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
What are you getting at Nutster? Have we missed something here? It looks like a bog-standard Terry Koeckritz 64k block. That'll show'em! DeltaStarSenior SysopSpeciationspeed! 08:28, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
94.0.0.0/24 is a "class C", and is the range 94.0.0.0 to 94.0.0.255. 94.0.0.0/8 is the "class A", just to be clear. (Talking about classes is a bit 1990s too; they don't really exist any more either). MaxAlex Swimming pool 08:32, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Good call, corrected. As well, this is why I said "Class B was". --Eira OMTG! The Goat be Praised. 08:43, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
I think Nutty is confused by the three zeros. -- Nx / talk 08:46, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, Nx. I was. Why isn't it effectively an /8 if you don't tell Mediawiki what the second octet is? Nutty Rouxnever mind 13:25, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
You are telling MW what it is - in this case it just happens to be 0. It's no different to it being 74 or 1 or 193. DeltaStarSenior SysopSpeciationspeed! 13:29, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

While CIDR avoids the traps pedants love, it seems /16s are indeed "beloved of TK" http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=&page=User%3A94.&pattern=1&year=&month=-1 suggests that about 16/256 =1/16 of the 94. /8 range is blocked, if that's typical then 1/16 of the internet is blocked from editing.


Indeed, CIDR is the rule now, so talk of "class this" and "class that" is not helpful. All of 94.0.0.0/12 is used by "Sky Broadband", probably mostly for dynamic IP to homes. For non-British folk, Sky is the UK's commercial satellite TV broadcaster, run by one of the Murdochs and part owned by the Murdoch News Corp. Sky Broadband is an ISP focused on home users, bought wholesale and renamed because News Corp rightly fears that high speed Internet connectivity renders its TV companies like Sky almost as redundant as newspapers. So, in short, Conservapedia blocked tens of thousands of unrelated British people from contributing. The very definition of "overbroad" 82.69.171.91 (talk) 14:46, 8 September 2010 (UTC)