Debate:Do you know what deceit is?

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Given that most of RW users went to public schools, and some are even Atheist!, my questions is: do you know what deceit is? Do you know that it is wrong? I'm worried now, after reading this. (Editor at) CP:no intelligence allowed 13:01, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

(Please note that in traditional British English a "Public School" is a private school.)

  • And yes, I think I know what deceit is and try to avoid it. (Editor at) CP:no intelligence allowed 13:01, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
  • I went to a private religious school, so while my answer is yes, I am afraid that destroys your argument. It should be obvious to anyone that atheism promotes a secular worldview without any rules or consequences, even though you might like to believe otherwise. If you continue to post falsehoods, you will be removed from this project. Godspeed.--Tom Moorefiat justitia ruat coelum 13:05, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
    Well, I'm not sure... but I think so... let me see.... I taught at a public school, and while there I wrote up several students for Academic Dishonesty... but no, I don't think I ever taught that deceit is wrong... what's really funny is that Schlafly is not above using or praising deceit when it suits his needs... It's just like the mockery debacle a while ago. Someone pointed out that Andy mocks people all the time, and he responded well, Conservatives understand that liberals overrely on mockery, Conservatives only use mockery to make a strong point.... He's pathetic SirChuckBEl...ipses are Cool... 13:06, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
I would have thought that seeing as Andy considers public schools to be the spawn of Satan (Dawkins' younger brother maybe) you should really take anything he spouts about them with several truckloads of salt. Besides, it's more of a moral issue, which should be taught by the family unit anyway, and the school's role is to enforce society's norms. Although I did go to a Catholic school and the good Fathers certainly beat any deceitful thoughts out of me... actually most thoughts were a beatable offence now that I think about it. --PsygremlinWhut? 13:15, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
  • I went to a private religious school (really) so I have no problems in recognizing deceit.--Bobbing up 13:37, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
  • I went to a private religious public school (hint: I'm a Brit) and deceit was considered character building. Ajkgordon 15:22, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
  • Public school. atheist. I got taught at school and at home that deceit was wrong. Andy has taught me that deceit is Right ( get it?). Also, some of my teachers were apparently Christian, some were up front about it. So andy is either ignorant or lying about public schools, probably both. 204.248.28.194 15:44, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
There is, in fact, some potential for confusion in this poll as "Public school" means radically different things in British and American English.--Bobbing up 15:49, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
  • Government school in UK through 3rd form. Prayer assembly every morning. Made me an atheist ;) And I hate it when Andy lies, it's so wrong. Government schools in US 5th - 12th grades, no teacher-led prayer in class, of course. Learned to lie, got caught, got punished, learned to lie better, became a conservative for eleven minutes in college, got over it when I saw it for the deception it was. ħumanUser talk:Human 16:22, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
  • I wuz homskooled. Da seat? Is dat not da ting ya sit down on? Zmidponk 16:24, 27 June 2008 (EDT) Sorry, couldn't resist.
Ok, as a serious answer - I was taught in public school, and learned that deceit was wrong from both my parents and my teachers. Zmidponk 16:44, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
  • Homeschooled. Learned that deceit was wrong. Not that this effects the question. --CPAdmin1 16:34, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
Wow Tim... Were you actually taught about "deceit" specifically? Was it made into a specific lesson, or just a general reminder throughout your education? (I'm not mocking you, I'm just unsure how that would even be carried out.) UchihaKATON! 16:40, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
As I was homeschooled in a Christian home, I was taught specifically that deceit was wrong. --CPAdmin1 17:03, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
  • I went to a Naz Roman Catholic School for grades 1-8, (the best 12 years of my life!), and not only did they learn me what deceit was but they also learned me that being left handed was a sign of being the spawn of Satan. Once I had "owned" the concept and agreed that, yes, The Prince of Darkness was dear ol dad, the nuns backed off, just in case. I even got out of classroom participation by answering any question with "six hundred and sixty-six!" CЯacke® 16:49, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
  • Oh no, not that shit again. I have several times removed that ludicrous statement from the CP article, and have challenged Andy to come up with any evidence to back it up. I have been told that the onus is on me to disprove it ... I have probably been given a writing assignment ... I don't really remember (or care)... I went to what in the US of A would be termed a public school. I was most definitely taught that deceit was wrong fun. We had deceit lessons every Tuesday between 10.00 and 11.30. Followed by instruction on how to put on a condom. I also had to sing hymns every morning - but it was a long time ago, and liberals hadn't really been invented then. GNUSMAS : TALK 18:34, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
  • Private school; somewhere around 2nd grade we were taught that deceit was wrong. We were also taught that "randomness games that involve money" were wrong too which in my mind could only mean Monopoly so I think I didn't take any of these seriously. NightFlareStill doesn't have a (nonstub) RWW article. 19:25, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
  • Public school - soon to be a teacher. If you show me a kid who said he didn't get in trouble for lying at school, I'll show you, well, a liar... That didn't work out so well. Anyway, my school had very strict (and highly common) policies about "deceit." For example: plagiarism? Expulsion. --Arcan ¡ollǝɥ 19:50, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
  • Guvmint school. We were taught that deception/deceit is wrong unless you're a teacher (I was going to put "Mistress" but that has connotations), much like CP in fact. I was @ the tale end of "Children should be seen and not heard." so tended to keep my head down & "be good". I actually have a GCE (16+ exam) in Religious Knowledge! SusanG  ContribsTalk 08:55, 28 June 2008 (EDT)
  • Church of England primary school (5-11) and then scholarship to independent 400-year old school (same one as JRR Tolkien). Head master was canon in CofE, two other reverends and a monk on teaching staff of about 35. I already knew deceit was wrong from my parents. School never "taught" deceit was wrong, it was taken as a given. Although member of boy scouts until 17 (including Church parades) was a confessed non-believer from about 12. Before that I'd never really thought that much about it. Jollyfish.gifGenghisOur ignorance is God; what we know is science.
  • I was schooled in one of them fancyshmancy public schoolhuoses with more than one room. All ma buddies and I never got all of that nallij that some of them private school kids got, and I was taught what I was taught and i turned out fine. I gotta stop typing though. The warden is about to cach me on this here computerater that I shanked from lil tinybitch. Prisoner #4563322 GET ME OUT
  • To say that public schools teach that deceit is good is ridiculous. I have gone to public school my entire life, and always intend to. I learned well from the deceitful liberal public school. And we have never expelled someone for getting pregnant either. --*Gen. S.T. Shrink* Get to the bunker 02:17, 7 July 2008 (EDT)
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