Fun talk:Oenological argument

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Logical fallacy

That oenological problem is a cheap trick. "What problem? I drink, I fall down. I get up. No problem." is easy to say. Where's the error? In the "I get up" part, coupled with the "No problem" corollary. That's a contradiction in terms. QED. Editor at RW^{was rooting for HD DVD} 16:15, 18 February 2008 (EST)

One of the errors it makes is omission - in between "I fall down" and "I get up" it leaves out the obligatory "several hours later". human 16:55, 18 February 2008 (EST)

Ha you claim points for this garbage? I provided the original insight and therefore stake my claim as winner. I'll not lose another time. This time round I've stacked all the rules in my favor! Genghis ^{No one beats me and gets away with it more than five times} 17:12, 18 February 2008 (EST)

I once knew a fellow who acknowledged his drinking problem as "I run out of money and booze before I'm done."

With that, there can be no argument. Sprocket J Cogswell (talk) 15:51, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Moved from article

<ref>Um excuse me, the british don't chill their beer because they don't need to, because it is good quality beer. You Americans or Germans or whoever, only drink ice cold beer cos it's such bad quality terrible beer, so the only way you can actually drink it is freezing, otherwise you can taste it. Good British beer is room temperature, and great allowing all the flavours out properly. Smart ass.</ref> ^{— Unsigned, by: 203.97.10.186 / talk / contribs}

Moved by me. Thunderkatz^Ho! 18:25, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

I was under the impression its because the weather is so bad in Britain, even in the peak of summer that drinking cold beer would cause brainfreeze.--Damo^Hi 18:50, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

And here I always thought it was due to Lucas refrigerators... ħuman 22:19, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

PS, I learned somewhere that was probably wrong that beer should be drinked at the temperature it was fermented (or some part of the process) at. ħuman 22:21, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

the lower the temperature, the fewer volatiles are released from the substance, consequently the lower the number of flavour molecules reaching the nasal passages where the subtleties of taste are registered. If a substance tastes CRAP at reasonable temperature, it is sensible to chill it to remove the chance of the lack of flavour being noted by the consumer. If, however, the substance tastes EXCELLENT, then the consumer may be trusted to appreciate its full bouquet. There has recently (10 years or so) been the introduction of "ice cold Guinness" - I defy anyone to taste this while blindfold and tell the difference between it and some of the chilled lagers which are so touted by the producers. A cold drink is most refreshing on a warm day, but for taste it should be allowed to approach ambient.   ^Contribs_Talk 23:32, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

In line with the above comment, and in an even-handed desire to preserve fair play I added a comment to balance the severe Anti-British, racist comment about British beer. It seems that RW version of TK has reverted my edit with the comment "suspected parody". I smell deceit and will issue blocks!--Bob^{Not Jim} 14:12, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

The fact that british beer tastes awful is a truism and does not require citation. To suggest otherwise (at least as is currently written) is unfunny vandalism and will be mercilessly reverted. True wikis have rules and our rules prohibit inclusion of demonstrable falsehoods. This is not a mobocracy. No amount of brits whining and edit warring about their dreadful beverages will change anything, except my tolerance of your inanities, which, by the way, is wearing very thin. ^{— Signed, by: Neveruse513 / Talk / Block} 14:56, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

British beer is lovely. Have you tried Abbot Ale?-- Kriss Akabusi^{AAAWOOOGAAAR!!1} 15:29, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Abbot's pretty good but I still prefer a pint of London Pride. BTW, Neveruse, just because you colonials never got the hang of brewing decent beer doesn't give you the right to dictate to us Brits. (Cue 'Rule Brittania', 'Land Of Hope And Glory' etc) Silver Sloth (talk) 15:33, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Abbot is good. Pride is good, but the list of good British real ales would fill a page. Can't get it here in Spain though. The best I can get is "Voll Damm" and the Spanish are amazed that I don't drink it ice cold.--Bob^{Not Jim} 19:48, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Beer Deceit

Just to settle it :p You either have beer any way you like. Usually ale is warm, lager is cool. It depends on the aromas and strengths which is best for it. Same with most drinks. Cheap ass vodka for isntance, you definitely need to cool to prevent the more lethal components vapourising and going up your nose. Drinks with less volatile flavours are best served warm (more specifically, room or cellar temperature). ^postate 16:50, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

This shit just goes on at length about it. ^postate 16:51, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Actually, as Armondikov's link says, British "Real Ale" is drunk "cool" rather then "warm". That is to say slightly below actual room temperature - but nowhere near so cold that you can't taste it.--Bob^{Not Jim} 19:46, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Bob, your rants are beginning to reek of last wordism. Even you cannot deny that british beer is 'enjoyed' (I use the term very loosely) "cool" [sic your obfuscation of "cold"]. Open your mind to the cold, refreshing taste of American-style lagers and savor the complex notes of distinctive American hops. ^{— Signed, by: Neveruse513 / Talk / Block} 19:56, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

We have a beer article don't we? ^postate 19:58, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

proposed new cat

A new category: 'Pages that do not contain any explanation of what they are about, or actually anything else either'. I will revise the title. Mei (talk) 18:27, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Germans

" This, however, is used by some extremists as proof that Germans, who would rather drink beer than wine, are not really loved by God."

Given the quality of German wine the evidence points conclusively to German beer as being a sign of a God's benevolence and forgiveness... Or it points conclusively to the opposite and he hates them with every fibre of his omnipotence which is why he invented Liebfraumilch in the first place.Longdog (talk) 11:34, 29 September 2014 (UTC)