RationalWiki:Articles for deletion/James Huberty

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1. This page puts excessive emphasis on the perpetrator, giving a vaguely sympathetic portrayal (devoutly religious, mental illness, reliable worker, etc.). As I noted on the talk page (Talk:James Huberty), pages on mass shooter events should roughly ("Give serious thought to the frequency with which you mention the shooter’s name. Stories of the victims should be given much more weight than the story of the shooter. We recommend naming the shooter 'infrequently and only when only [the] name is critical to understanding the story.'"[1]). Bongolian (talk) 15:23, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

   @BJA2112, Monet, and Plutocow BJA2112 has deleted this page again. Can we get agreement on deleting this page? Since the sole author of the page, BJA2112, has agreed that it should be deleted, I don't think there's much likelihood that it is going remain. Bongolian (talk) 18:37, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

2. The author has agreed to have it deleted; there's no need to drag this out out of some pursuit of bureaucracy. Plutocow (talk) 18:40, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
3. The article doesn't comply with our mission:
   1. Analyzing and refuting pseudoscience and the anti-science movement;
   2. Documenting the full range of crank ideas;
   3. Explorations of authoritarianism and fundamentalism;
   4. Analysis and criticism of how these subjects are handled in the media.

The page brings up extreme religious beliefs as a factor for the person's antisocial behavior and mentions his conspiratorial beliefs, which is as close as the article gets to being "missional". But mentioning those things can go counter against our mission entirely. Is it really appropriate to imply a link between religious extremism and mass shootings? Plus, his conspiracy theory seems to be a symptom of his mental health problem, not a cause of the shooting. But Bongolian also brings up a good point that even if we were to keep this page, we should handle the topic extremely delicately. As the RTDNA guideline points out: "Don’t look for simple causes to explain complex events. Multiple factors generally contribute to someone committing a mass shooting. Be careful not to focus on the search for a simple motive. It may not exist." We also don't want to glorify mass shooters nor inspire others to commit mass shootings. LongStylus (talk) 18:40, 25 May 2022 (UTC)