Talk:Abigail Shrier

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TERF

As far as I know this woman doesn't qualify as a TERF as she's not a feminist, let alone a radical one. I think the conservative wingnuttery category suitable for her. GeeJayK (talk) 03:17, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, you're probably right on that call. We've got a "Category:Transphobes" now, which should be a better fit. I like the "Scratch a TERF..." section title, though. It's a popular meme in trans-rights circles and I think a bit of well-placed snark adds spice to the article. Splainer (talk) 04:14, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

Another person who hasn't read the about RationalWiki page

I find the tone of this article to be not encyclopedic. E.g. "Ann Coulter, Ben Shapiro, and the like". The "and the like", apart from being not encyclopedic in tone, is also unduly derogatory, unbefitting of an encyclopedic article. ^{— Unsigned, by: 2A02:1811:D505:7F00:86E:123B:C694:1E56 / talk}

@2A02:1811:D505:7F00:86E:123B:C694:1E56 So you don't actually have any criticisms of the substance of the article, only the tone? ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 13:28, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Shrier's ideas

Nearer the end, she proposes not giving young people smartphones and:

“”Don't be afraid to push back; your adolescent can handle it. You don't have to go along with everything she comes up with (even claims about sexuality or identity). The trajectory of the life of Chiara, whose story I mentioned in the previous chapter, changed after her mother arranged for her to live on a horse farm that had no internet. Brie from Chapter Five quit her job to travel with her daughter and then moved across the country. Another family pulled up stakes and moved from a progressive city to an immigrant community that shared their values, as you will see in the Afterword. If you find your daughter steeping in a tea of gender ideology with all of her peers, do what it takes to lift her out and take her away. If she is still living with you, a move seems incredibly effective, especially if it's early in her trans identification. If she is already at college, bring her home.

The idea being that parents can stop a minor from being trans (and given the references to sexuality, probably gay either) through strict repression. As found here where it was used as an example.

Chillpilled (talk) 03:37, 7 March 2024 (UTC)