Talk:Atheist professor myth/Archive1

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Snopes[edit]

This seems more Snopes than RationalWiki--"Shut up, Brx." 01:19, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

It would be a better article if it said more about the myth being used than just recounting it. PowderSmokeAndLeather (talk) 01:31, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
I think the sections after the examples do ok as RW material. ħumanUser talk:Human 02:58, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
The snarky analysis of the different stories makes this great RW material Beatgroover (talk) 02:56, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Stereotypes utilized[edit]

In the section Stereotypes utilized we state: "The core of every variation of the myth is the idea that atheists are obsessed with disproving the existence of God. While some people like this do exist, most scientifically-minded atheists in the modern day recognize that the existence of God is not falsifiable, and instead focus on the negative effects that organized religion has on the world." (my italics)

While many athiests, myself included, think that the influence of religion is largely negative I am not entirely convinced that this is true globally. Indeed, the "atheist focusing on the negative aspects of religion" idea may itself be a stereotype.--Bob"I think you'll find it's more complicated than that." 20:48, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

God's Not Dead[edit]

We need to have an article on this movie, stat. From the reviews I read, it's a propaganda piece that anyone with two brain cells should loath. --128.113.151.84 (talk) 06:09, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Agreed.Greatnecro (talk) 16:29, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Relation to the "God is Dead" Movement[edit]

The whole "atheist professor" meme may have started when Emory professor Tom Altizer made TIME magazine in 1965 and 1966 for his publications and teachings on "the death of God." Once Altizer got in the national media the story ran like wildfire that the university and its students were being corrupted by atheism. Altizer was not working out of the seminary and his theological work was actually about the range of options other than a/theism for Christians in the modern age, but Fundamentalist reactions went off in a predictable fashion.

I'd like to know if anyone can trace out a connection between this professor meme and Altizer. 67.22.207.123 (talk) 21:42, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Countermeme?[edit]

https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comments/3tv8kp/a_byui_professor_gets_whats_coming/ Cømяade FυzzчCαтPøтαтø (talk/stalk) 22:57, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Clearly an "atheist" version of that same, dumb story that never happened. Good catch. It deserves mention in the article, however minor. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 05:39, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

The professor[edit]

... is a professor after all, and will have much knowledge and have encountered the same argument many, many times. The response is more likely to be 'You have attended this course and not learned how to come up with anything better than that illogical non-argument - you fail the course.' 86.191.127.106 (talk) 13:58, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

Atheist professor myth part 2[edit]

Said anonymous student of said anonymous professor decides to join the academic world and becomes a professor.

One day a student in his class on 'the meaning of evil' stands up and asks

  • 'Would you accept that being personally responsible for what one does is a mark of growing up/being a fully developed human?'
  • 'Yes'
  • 'We can choose to do the right thing or choose to do the wrong thing.'
  • 'Yes.'
  • 'So - is not the concept of 'evil' a denial of personal responsibility?'

The student sits down - as does the professor, instantly converted to atheism. 31.49.137.205 (talk) 11:45, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

This really happened to me[edit]

I was in the first year of my super-rationalism degree, attending a lecture in applied cleverness, when the Skub-loving professor, a smug smile on his lips, said, "Is anyone here a Skub hater?"

I stood up and said, "I am, Sir!"

"Well," he said, "perhaps you could explain how Skub has at least one use, possibly more?"

"Simple," I replied, "Skub's shit."

There was a gasp from all the students. The professor ran out of the room, his life's work in ruins, and hanged himself in his office. Some people were sad at first, but then I pointed out to them that Skub's shit and they should be glad that the professor had escaped the grip of Skub before he died, and everyone was happy.

90.210.91.96 (talk) 11:17, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

If the above is not a fairy tale, what's skub? 82.44.143.26 (talk) 19:04, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

They're have a go at us for taking a side on what they ultimately perceive to be a pointless debate. ikanreed You probably didn't deserve that 19:20, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
Me again (the author). I was really having a go at the lack of effort that went into the original tale. I know Skub is about pointless debates but my main point was how shit the story can get away with being. 90.210.91.96 (talk) 00:30, 9 March 2017 (UTC)