Talk:Black supremacy

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Louis Theroux

Louis Theroux was featured in a great BBC documentary about black nationalism in New York. It was filmed right before 2000 and the apocalyptic race war is actually mentioned by a member of the Nation of Islam in the film. ^{— Unsigned, by: 184.1.142.206 / talk / contribs 00:07, 29 May 2014 (UTC)}

Some problems I, as a black man, have with this article

I am dismayed that a 'rational' website appears to have such a burgeoning hate-on for black people; the whole article reads like an attempt to smear and discredit black people who are interested in self-improvement and reclamation of black history. I mean, what is really being said here? Black people are worthless, have no history, and are irrelevant to everything, including world events?

Why not also include a passage about how black people are worthless subhumans who can't do anything right? Surely that is 'rational', as well? I'm not saying that these black supremacist groups are without flaws, but I think that the character assassination displayed in this article is uncalled for and unnecessary. I see no need for the hostility towards us.

I guess it's a waste of time expecting anyone to display friendship and understanding towards us. It doesn't matter to me if you wish to portray all black supremacists as Black Nazis who are all googly-eyed insane people - it is just incongruous with what this website claims to stand for, i.e. rationality. It is not 'rational' to ridicule and shame our people.

Love, a black man.

–^{— Unsigned, by: 173.3.228.139 / talk / contribs}

Um... I have no idea what you were reading, but it clearly wasn't this article. Take this excerpt:

"It's important to separate legitimate historical revisionism from the kind Afrocentrists engage in. The early histories and ethnographies of African cultures were written largely by European historians and anthropologists from an imperialist perspective. Thus, these works are often skewed by racism and filled with factual inaccuracies, and are outdated due to new findings in archaeological and historical scholarship. There have been many revisionist works throughout the 20th and 21st centuries that attempt to look at this history from an African perspective, but remain factual."

If you get from that to "reads like an attempt to smear and discredit black people who are interested in self-improvement and reclamation of black history. I mean, what is really being said here? Black people are worthless, have no history, and are irrelevant to everything, including world events?", then the problem is with you, not the article.

Afrocentrism and allied thought are not the whole of scholarship in African history. In fact, Afrocentrism is just a silly little cul-de-sac that's transparently better fitted to rallying the troops around a particular ideology than discerning what actually happened in history. Queex_{chthonic murmurings}

I think we should protect this page if it is not that already cuz it might attract, ya know.--Delibirda (talk) 12:01, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

White Supremacy and Black Supremacy are literally the same thing. That part merely stated that new evidence dismisses unscientific claims. --Racia zombio94 (talk) 02:02, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Edit request

What's wrong with this edit? [1] As a black man I think it's important to let the brothers know the truth. (talk) 16:43, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

"Negroid" maybe? Christopher (talk) 17:19, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Taking issue with mundane words. Love it. Iamapartofman (talk) 15:13, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Dark skin vs black terminology

I don’t know if this can be included in the main article but I think it’s important to make a distinction between dark skinned and black since a lot of black supremacist agendas like to use these two words interchangeably. It is important to note that not all dark skinned people are considered “black” or African as is the case with the Negrito and Australian aborigines populations who genetically, linguistically, and culturally have more in common with other Asian populations than sub-Saharan Africans. It is also important to note that the continent of Africa is not homogeneous and is home to many different ethnic groups with variety of different phenotypes and skin tones besides dark skin Bantu (west african) traits.SensaurC-137 (talk) 18:10, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

On talk pages, please sign your comments using four tildes (~~~~) or by clicking on the sign button: on the toolbar above the edit panel. You can also indent successive talk page comments using one more colon (:) for each line. Thank you. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 23:51, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

The continent is a rich set of cultures and people, yeah, that black supremacists probably don't really care about or they overstate how homogeneous and united those countries are. There are huge misconceptions abound when dealing with the continent that I don't think can easily fit in this page without being its own article. There are people that threat Africa as a country, or there are no metropolises in Africa, or Africa is racially homogenous, or Africa has the same climate all around, or Africa has dire poverty everywhere. As a start you can probably write in Africa. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 18:33, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

I recommend adding this image (Von Luschan skin color chart) to the article.

— Godless Raven ^talk_stalk^walk_balk 🌹 18:42, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Yeah I agree.^{— Unsigned, by: SensaurC-137 / talk / contribs}

Elaborating on Black separatism

Maybe one day this can get its own RW article, I feel it is important to go into the different kinds of black separatism from the good (such as dissension from a racist criminal justice system and wanting to establish your own judicial system in the U.S as well as having black economic empowerment and taking ethnic pride in establishing your own communities) to the bad in which is seperatism is born out of racial hate and bigotry and having contempt for other groups of people and is essentially a mirror image of white separatism that many white nationalists groups espouse.The Nation of Islam engages in the bad kind of separatism but have a sense of legitimacy among black people due to their status as one of the wealthiest religious organizations in the black community as well as constantly trying to “uplift” the black community by constantly advocating economic ownership, self reliance, and most importantly Independence from a society that has historically oppressed and marginalized black people. I feel this needs to be address as distinguishing between the two can be difficult and sometimes divisive in the black community.SensaurC-137 (talk) 19:18, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

No, because what you're talking about is an ethnostate, and those "such as Israel/Palestine" have proven to be disastrous for people of the cultural out-group, and may seemingly be 'good' for the ingroup at first, but will eventually fail as a lack of cultural exchange, alienation, and eventually bigotry will grow, causing distrust among the population. How are potential non-black recipients of this potential black judicial system going to be fair, if a white judicial system is going to favor whites at the expense of others "as it has for most of its existence", will this black justice system be unbiased? or biased in favor of black people? will it charge those who are not black I really want to know. I know you know that any form of separatism isn't progressive as it goes against what most would assume is progressive. I can agree that our American society hasn't fulfilled the promises of integration, but the solution isn't the bait-and-switch that is Black Separatism. @[[:User:|]]