User talk:GR

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Regarding your email, you are still able to edit your own talk page. You can explain yourself here and (within reason), ping anyone whom you think should read your explanation. Bongolian (talk) 02:05, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Well it's mostly you. @Bongolian I did not dodge the punishment. I left because I was upset, at that point I just thought an injustice was done to me and I didn't want to deal with RW. I already spent 7 days in exile and I have rethought my behavior. Yes, I do think I was incorrect and I handled it poorly. The option most people voted on was a temporary ban. Since among the options of temporary ban the 1 week one received the most votes, that one should've been the punishment to begin with. The goal for the punishment is to make a person change. I promised @LeftyGreenMario that I would behave, a promise I kept so far. It is really unfair to go full nuclear on me when 1) the mob did not choose that option the most and 2) when the assumption was that I dodged the punishment. You may assume I dodged it, but that wasn't my intention. Why would I do that in the first place? Permaban wasn't going to win anyway. All I am asking is to be given a chance that I will behave and now what seems to be just vindictive and bloodthirsty desire to flex power on me. Want me to behave? Let me show you I changed. You can ban me later anyway. @Ze β€” Godless Raven SDAPOe logo.svg talkstalkwalkbalk 🌹 02:11, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
I mean it was fairly clear that the consensus at the time of the coop closing was to block you for a week which is why I unblocked you after a week, certain people here seem to have other ideas tho. Suspected Feminazi Harass! 03:36, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
May I have the input of the other mods? @Ace McWicked @Spud @Scream!! @RWRW β€” Godless Raven SDAPOe logo.svg talkstalkwalkbalk 🌹 04:41, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
You seem to have improved from the comment though it'll take time for me to really be confident moving forward. I'd keep you unbanned but restrictions (keeping you on a closer watch) apply. The coop vote has always been very unclear to me but I see a week long block should be safer to go with than an indef one. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 04:51, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
Thank you, I will not disappoint you @LeftyGreenMario. I was just minding my business, editing my userpage, stuff like that. β€” Godless Raven SDAPOe logo.svg talkstalkwalkbalk 🌹 04:57, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
I forgot to mention: If the community wants a public apology from me, I am very much willing to do so if there is a demand for it. I am genuinely sorry for my behavior in the coop case and I regret it. β€” Godless Raven SDAPOe logo.svg talkstalkwalkbalk 🌹 04:58, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
When you left, the vote was split exactly in half. 10 votes for ban for a week and 10 votes for permaban. It could easily have gone either way. Your departure and subsequent return very much looked to me like an attempt to dodge your punishment. Under the circumstances, I fully support Bongolian's 22 day block. However, I do sincerely hope that you have learned your lesson and will move on. If you don't see everyone else here as your ideological enemy and if you don't try to pick fights with everyone that crosses your path over trivial matters, I do believe that you can make a very positive contribution to this wiki. Spud (talk) 05:24, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

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No. One more vote for a ban and you would have been banned. 22 day block is a lucky compromise GR. Take your punishment with dignity. Come back after the 22 days and people will believe and trust that you have changed your tune. Trying to circumvent or beg your way out of 22 days just says to the community that you haven't really taken their concerns seriously. If you keep trying to avoid this, or return to the obnoxiousness, I have no doubt the community will swiftly hold a coop to make it an actual ban. ShabiDOO 05:38, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
With all due respect, I have requested mod input to this. I know you voted to ban me and you hold a certain grudge against me, so please avoid creating conflict with me. I also don't want to cause any conflict with you. That was part of the promise I made: I would try my best to avoid the users that provoked me from the start. In regards to the math: The vote was split; 14 people voted AGAINST a ban. 10 in FAVOR. That means that the ban option is not supported by the majority. People like HBC also mentioned things such as the 2/3rd rule to indef ban, but apparently it is no longer valid. That means: the temporary ban vote had the majority. Among those that supported a temporary ban, those that wanted a week had more votes than the ones that wanted a 22 day ban. It is unfair and vindictive to punish me more than has already done to me. If the goal of the punishment is to make me change, I have changed. Everything else is just pleasure to flex mod powers on me and nonsensical. And again, I ask you civilly to not provoke me. I legit just want to edit the wiki and you have been consistently against me; we don't have to like each other to get along @Shabidoo. β€” Godless Raven SDAPOe logo.svg talkstalkwalkbalk 🌹 05:55, 5 July 2020 (UTC)