Talk:Homeschooling

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Zoning is another reason why people choose to formally home school their kids. I was zoned for middle school to attend my education in one of the most violent areas of my home city, and the trajectory statistics for the kids who were fed into that school were abysmal. I got the religious nonsense as learning material, but my parents thought it was silly, and so I was lucky enough to benefit from some social development alongside some skepticism because I was "home schooled," ie., read the books I liked.

These days public schools can be incredibly rough. Not just the punch and kick life lessons of old; most of the folks from my proposed middle school wound up in prison or pregnant well before 18. The public high school I went to wasn't much better. I was lucky to get into an R-1, finally a proper education, and graduate under Yale-educated faculty.

Some people choose this route out of poverty rather than convenience.

Mind if I add a quote to the page?

"Democracy and religion. In the Lord's Prayer, Jesus taught us to pray to the heavenly Father, Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. (Matthew 6:10). God is Lord and Ruler of all. We should seek his guidance in everyday affairs here on earth. God wants us to respond to His will, not to the edicts of men. Therefore, we must seek to establish governments where men are able to be as free as possible to respond to God. We believe that this way is done best in a democratic republic. At the same time, it is our duty as Christians to make sure the governments protect religious freedom. If not, we may have to serve men, rather than God. Even before voting, we should take an interest in the selection of good, God-fearing candidates. When it is time to vote, we shall then be better prepared to be responsible. All of us can pray for the elected leaders. Our prayers will help the Holy Spirit to guide them."

- By the way, this was to be taught to sixth graders. Attempting to violate the establishment clause much? Miles (talk) 21:03, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

Lolberals pls

Is it really racism to suggest that racism actually exists in the same way that horses, donkeys, and mules are similar and dissimilar? That is, to suggest that there are distinct human races that prevent us all from being the exact same species? Obviously, we're not in the same situation as the equines are, as our interracial offspring are fertile and capable of rearing children._{Although there are studies that say mixed race children are at higher risk of birth defects and genetic disorders.} ^{— Unsigned, by: 24.19.196.214 / talk / contribs}

At the risk of feeding the troll, what the bloody hell's that got to do with homeschooling? Spud (talk) 06:32, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Didn't ya look at the last section? ^{— Unsigned, by: 24.19.196.214 / talk / contribs}

On talk pages, please sign your comments using four tildes (~~~~) or by clicking on the sign button: on the toolbar above the edit panel. You can also indent successive talk page comments using one more colon (:) for each line. Thank you. It's about this which is linked in the article & apparently comes from a homeschool website. And yes, it is racist as well as ignorant to suggest that humans of different ethnicities constitute different species. Wéáśéĺóíď^{Methinks it is a Weasel} 06:59, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Would you agree that humanity has incredible genetic diversity/biological variance?--24.19.196.214 (talk) 07:15, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Better to use quantifiable and objective terms. "Incredible" is a slippery term, perhaps intended to convey something like "in great measure" or "go leor" but more useful as a rhetorical device than a rational qualifier. Furthermore, it is subjective, depending on what someone is prepared to believe. Sprocket J Cogswell (talk) 13:46, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

"Although there are studies that say mixed race children are at higher risk of birth defects and genetic disorders." Oh, so much bullshit. Osaka Sun (talk) 15:53, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Poorly-written, schizophrenic article

I notice that the article seems to have been written in two parts, one pro- and one anti-homeschooling. (Also, the very first source is being used precisely for reasons the abstract explicitly says the article is not scientific enough to be used for.) ^{— Unsigned, by: Wilhelm / talk / contribs}

Same, I could have sworn this article completely took the piss out of homeschooling only a few months ago

Download (talk) 02:39, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Likewise. The article, as it stands, is still a schizophrenic mess with much of the article being against homeschooling, but large sections being clearly written by a homeschooling advocate. I'm of the opinion that the pro-homeschooling segments be removed post-haste. 98.161.41.30 (talk) 05:33, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Is anyone going to fix this? Clearly some homeschooler with an ax to grind took this article to hell and back. I've had quite a bit of personal experience with numerous homeschoolers, as my mother joined a large community of them to teach Spanish after a hastily made decision to homeschool my younger sister. They run the spectrum from moderately well-adjusted to downright nuts. Whoever edited this page tried to make it look like every homeschooler turns out perfectly but the fact is many of them have piss-poor social skills with anyone but their family members. This is made worse when they are fed crazy fundie bullshit their whole lives and the close-knit communities they create are often only with those who agree with them. I would be happy to take out the schizophrenic sections and add my own experience to the article, as a person who's taken classes with homeschoolers before and studied how they learn in both individualized and group settings. Beatgroover (talk) 12:54, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Huge Axing

Seems like quite a lot was removed from this article. Is it going for something here? Zero (talk) 15:37, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

See above. It was suggested that the article was a bit of a mess - as indeed it was. It was a strange mixture of classic RW snark and homeskooling apologetics. The only solution is to axe massive portions. Bravo Hypocrite. Innocent Bystander (talk) 15:50, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

We still need to address the fact that there are reasons why homeschooling is considered secondary. Osaka Sun (talk) 15:53, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

I scanned the article after the post above and it was indeed badly written and schizophrenic. It needed a lot of work.--Bob^{"I think you'll find it's more complicated than that."} 15:58, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing some of the apologetic sections, much easier to read now! Do we know who added those in the first place? I assume the unsigned commentator who put in the "Lolberals pls" section had something to do with it Beatgroover (talk) 00:03, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

Raise your hands if you are homeschooled!

I mean just sign here.

--Teslashark (talk) 16:53, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

• I was for a while. Carptrash (talk) 21:24, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
• Lizzie Windsor was homeschooled.
• i was homeschooled until high school. it was mostly ok, but i had apologia textbooks for science...... Baphód (talk) 19:00, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

CP currently claims (16/8) that the reason Germany has won no gymnastic medals is because home schooling is forbidden. 'Is basic rocket science to have international level gym and trainers in home-schooling level houses.' 82.44.143.26 (talk) 16:13, 16 August 2016 (UTC)