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Yesterday, for the first time, we heard references to "Iraqi Special Forces" in reference to efforts to retake Mosul. Translated, if the Baghdad regime has "Special Forces", that means they have access to American training, equipment, and tactics. And if the Baghdad regime has access to American Special Forces training, equipment, and tactics, then the Iranian regime has access to American Special Forces training, equipment, and tactics. Something tells me this is not such a good idea in the long run. nobs 14:56, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

Yet More Alternate Names?[edit]

Face it people. Currently DAESH is still not adequate enough to either best describe these guys nor put the wind up them. How about some alternatives? First, "The Nation of Terroristan". A nation devoted to and based upon the precepts of terror. Their mission statement at it's purest, I believe. If not, then maybe co-opting this? Just shorten it to Carbombya/Carbombyans for ease of purpose if you wish. (Whether or not these guys still use car bombs is irrelevant. The term's still apt!) Chair tater (talk) 23:27, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

Interesting "nutshell"-type videos on DAESH[edit]

Consider the dates the videos are from — meaning, in every video the information up 'til then is accurate — but obviously, you have to do the work yourself of integrating the various then-future developments which have led up to the present day into the narrative given by the videos. Enjoy! Reverend Black Percy (talk) 01:46, 3 January 2017 (UTC)


It's unfortunate, but it's happening again. Massive car bombs explode killing civilians in Mosul, and the local Imam or whoever spreads their fake news, is right there on the spot in the immediate avtermath saying it was a US missile strike. Who's behind it (Iran? locals?) we don't know. But at the moment of victory when ISIS is declared dead, don't expect the population to be grateful. This can may already be the beginning of another insurgency which will become strong once ISIS is gone. The region will remain unpacified. nobs 05:06, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

Disregard nobs[edit]

Here's the real stats on Swedish ISIS travellers. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 18:35, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Oh, and those Swedes are so proud "it is not a homogenous group but rather a multi-ethnic one." As Jamie Ruben said to Hillary Clinton when she created ISIS, "Congratulations are in order. Well done." nobs 00:03, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
You are taking that email out of context. Did you actually read it? Do you know who the Transitional National Council was? Bongolian (talk) 00:18, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
There were two Presidential Finding's authorizing covert action to train and equip jihadis, one in March of 2011, the second in early 2012. But they were two components of the same strategy: to first aid in the overthrow of Gaddafi, the second to transport weapons to the same jihadis from Libya to Syria. Under both Findings, the jihadist groups were Al Qaeda, the LIFG, and Ansar Al Shariah. All three evolved into the Islamic State, and Vilyet Al Barqa centered around Benghazi & Derna. It was a coordinated strategy from the gitgo. nobs 00:25, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
And the "Transitional National Council" that you cited in the unclassified email relates to this how? Bongolian (talk) 01:40, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
The TNC was organized and funded by French intelligence. It used Gaddafi ex-Justice Minister (the guy who threw all the jihadis in jail, and through torture and brainwashing, in cooperation with the CIA, selected jihadi leaders for release to lead the LIGF and other groups) and the brother of Ayman al-Zawahiri, leader of Al Qaeda, who was just released from an Egyptian prison by Morsi, as its founders. nobs 05:21, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Why can't we just name this article "ISIS? "[edit]

--AIDS Skrillex 02:06, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

'Cause these orkz get pissed off when we say Da'esh. Maim!Kill!Burn! (talk) 19:11, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
daesh apparently pisses them off when you call em this. quite why we do that for this group of arseholes and not say, al qaeda or the ira, beats me AMassiveGay (talk) 19:37, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
david cameron, noted dick stain and former british pm, once berated the bbc for referring them to isis - 'you didnt even say so called' his words. apparently this is the same as supporting terrorists. AMassiveGay (talk) 19:40, 24 January 2018 (UTC)


Well, I think it's a silver? Thoughts? Corner (argue) 19:19, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Seems reasonable. Bongolian (talk) 20:10, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
I agree. Christopher (talk) 20:12, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
Upgraded. Can always downgrade if anyone wants to have a bit of fisticuffs. Corner (argue) 20:17, 22 March 2021 (UTC)