Talk:Intelligent design and academic freedom

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what to do

I think this article needs to be addressed soon as to its status.--PalMD^-Goatspeed! 22:04, 7 July 2007 (CDT)

Essay, maybe? --jtl^talk 22:31, 7 July 2007 (CDT)

I would point out that our guidelines for essay space are:

*Essay namespace - used for original works by a particular editor. The article will be well marked as an original piece with the name of the submitting user and direct readers to the talk page for community reaction and discussion. The actual articles under Essay should only be edited by the original author.

So I'm not convinced that essay is the appropriate home. We could rename it and re-write it. Delete it. Put into ACD. If we leave it in essay it is, in theory, un-editable.--Bob_M (talk) 02:27, 27 July 2007 (CDT)

This needs work...

...by a skilled writer. Methinks this will become a big project, and that right soon, thanks to the Rt Hon Mr. Stein.-αmεσ (!) 22:22, 22 August 2007 (CDT)

Stein's pro-ID, whining, misinformed, illogical blog human^{be in} 14:26, 23 August 2007 (CDT)

Passable? Better than what it was I think. tmtoulouse ^annoy 23:01, 22 August 2007 (CDT)

I like it! I think it could benefit from some more arguments, though, about why teaching creationism at a private institution is still shitty. Working on an editorial to that extent.αmεσ (!) 23:25, 22 August 2007 (CDT)

I'm still cleaning up a lot of the article's near-illiteracy. Some of it looks like it was typed in a big hurry by a thumper certain of their cause's righteousness. human^{be in} 17:42, 23 August 2007 (CDT)

Expelled

Doesn't actually argue for ID, rather it argues against discrimination against ID, as far as I understand it. Toast 23:51, 9 January 2009 (EST)

Yes, and badly, too. ħuman 01:11, 10 January 2009 (EST)

I think we are splitting hairs here but I am open to changes. To be honest, like I said in my edit comments, I mixed up the articles. At first I thought I was editing Expelled and then went back and saw that I was editing this one. Netharian^{Cubicles are prisons!} 01:17, 10 January 2009 (EST)

I think I sorta edited your edit... yeah, let's go back and look at what we are saying and make sure it makes sense ;) ħuman 01:22, 10 January 2009 (EST)

This might seem random

But this is without a doubt one of my favourite articles on the wiki, definite top 5. It is clear, concise without omitting details, interesting and good niche topic. - π 03:53, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Silver or gold worthy? - David Gerard (talk) 11:28, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Silver, gold is for cover articles and there is a procedure for that. - π 11:45, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

I know that. I'm asking if you think it's in reach of either of those - David Gerard (talk) 15:16, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I think it's a silver medalist - but I slightly desnarked it where it got a little ranty. Thanks for the reminder Mr. Mathemtaical Ratio. DogP^{Marmite Patrol} 15:24, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Anyone else think it's silver-worthy? If another yes and no objections, let's promote it - David Gerard (talk) 16:20, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

What's this lacking for cover?

Feels short - one arc of argument - but I can't see what's missing. Anyone? - David Gerard (talk) 22:18, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps information on some of the universities, read: moron factories, that provide academic freedom for ID/Creationist idiots morons professors. With the basic snark being: "If you want to teach bullshit, go teach it at a bullshit school."...might help fill out the article. Thoughts ? ArtifexMayhem (talk) 19:57, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Hey, give it a shot - David Gerard (talk) 21:40, 17 August 2010 (UTC)