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Talk:Pope Joan
"Unusually intelligent female"?[edit]
Either this is a very unfortunate choice of words, or someone's prejudices are showing...--ZooGuard (talk) 17:15, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
- Should have been "unusually intelligent (as defined by the originators of the story)" (being what was intended) or some other such anti-medieval times statement (there being nothing about prejudice against the past and/or the deliberately stupid/exclusionist).
- Transmogrify into Funspace article if desired. Or combine with Malachy prediction, absence of takeup by other groups and anything else to taste 212.85.6.26 (talk) 17:42, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
- Ah! Should have put a [sic] after it then & probably given a source. 17:47, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
- Was this the one that sparked that rule about lifting the pope up at an odd angle to check he was male?
theist 20:24, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
- Was this the one that sparked that rule about lifting the pope up at an odd angle to check he was male?
- Ah! Should have put a [sic] after it then & probably given a source. 17:47, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
Unusually intelligent man[edit]
I wonder if the sentence: "He was an unusually intelligent man" would invite comment.--BobSpring is sprung! 20:48, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
- If it were "male", it would probably be a bit odd, if nothing else. In context, I think the "unusually intelligent" thing isn't all that necessary either way. ~ Kupochama[1][2] 20:55, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
Pope Joan may be "mythical" but she was seen as out of the normal run of women #as they were expected to be at the time# - which should be indicated in some format. 'Piece written quickly' - meant 'unusually learned' ;) 82.44.143.26 (talk) 15:57, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
Delete[edit]
Why on earth do we have this. As an article it gives credence to myths that were "effectively demolished" by David Blondel, a mid-17th century Protestant historian. The only reason I can possibly see is to take a dig at the Catholic church and doing so like this is surely beneath us. If we're going to have a Pope Joan article then we should say that the myth is, indeed, a myth and none of the sly innuendo that this leans towards. Innocent Bystander (talk) 11:21, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
Marozia[edit]
Should be mentioned as providing source material for the legend (see the other place). Anna Livia (talk) 16:24, 28 November 2017 (UTC)