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Fresh virginal new talk page. ShabiDOO 09:12, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Your views on Atheism are misguided, to say the least[edit]

Gentlemen! I will lick your precious ROM, enabling me to destroy atheism on the internet. You should all be masturbating over Operation Cheese, which will likely give Conservapedia a top result on a certain search engine starting with G.

"The Scripture saith, The fool hath said in his heart, there is no God; it is not said, The fool hath thought in his heart; so as he rather saith it, by rote to himself, as that he would have, than that he can thoroughly believe it, or be persuaded of it....It appeareth in nothing more, that atheism is rather in the lip, than in the heart of man." - Sir Francis Bacon, his essay Of Atheism

The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy states: "In 1885, the Duke of Argyll recounted a conversation he had had with Charles Darwin the year before Darwin's death: In the course of that conversation I said to Mr. Darwin, with reference to some of his own remarkable works on the Fertilization of Orchids, and upon The Earthworms, and various other observations he made of the wonderful contrivances for certain purposes in nature — I said it was impossible to look at these without seeing that they were the effect and the expression of Mind. I shall never forget Mr. Darwin's answer. He looked at me very hard and said, “Well, that often comes over me with overwhelming force; but at other times,” and he shook his head vaguely, adding, “it seems to go away. ”(Argyll 1885, 244)"

Researchers at Oxford University have reported finding children who, when questioned, express their understanding that there is a Creator, without having had any such teaching from parents or teachers about this matter.

But I am no doubt just wasting my time, seeking to convince misguided atheists of their folly. If you didn't lack machismo, you would no doubt have the moral courage to admit your mistakes. Olé olé olé!Sicilian (talk) 23:14, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Huh? ShabiDOO 23:43, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
Oh my God! Shabi, Ken has vandalized your talkpage! Heinous! How heinous! This is an embarrassment! - Rairyu75 (Talk) 23:46, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
What a random place for a Ken rant. Pizza SLICE.gifChef Moosolini’s Ristorante ItalianoMake a Reservation 01:35, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Nothing like a few paragraphs of derp to decorate a fresh new talk page. ShabiDOO 09:36, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

"Extremist"[edit]

An "extremist" is one who's views are on the extreme ends of the current Overton Window. Basically, my definition treats them as the radicals among radicals. But again, it's not being extreme itself that can make such groups and individuals unacceptable in society, but rather the behaviors that cause them to be classified as extremists to begin with. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 05:17, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Yeah Grammar that makes sense. ShabiDOO 03:47, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
By the way are we ever going to play Go? ShabiDOO 03:47, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Plutocow[edit]

For saving me from having to read whatever unpleasantness was posted on my talkpage. ShabiDOO

Dear ShabiDOO[edit]

ShabiDOO, you wrote: "I think if Jesus were actually divine (lol) and met Ken he would be pretty horrified by his chronic un-christian-ness." - ShabiDOO, March 29, 2021

If there is one thing that Jesus is horrified by it is your reading comprehension skills. If I were to net $50,000 on a business transaction that would not necesarily mean I earn a six-figure income for a year. ShabiDoo, let me guess, you attended public schools and did not attend private, Christian schools. I suggest reading the material on Ace's talk page with greater due diligence! I know it is hard for you to believe that people are able to make $50,000 on business transactions, but please broaden your horizons. You are prisoner of a self-imposed bubble of possibilities in life. Business to business transactions can certainly be large at times. Please think more like a businessman and less like an employee! Mindset my man, mindset.

In about 12 months or so, God willing, much to the chagrin of an atheist who goes by the moniker of ShabiDOO, God will bless a humble, and lowly bondservant of His with a $50,000+ check. An the icing on the cake is it will be due to a transaction of mine with a self-proclaimed atheist. A pretty nice atheist woman who is very much unlike the atheists at this wiki! Yes, my atheist friends, God does have a sense of humor.

In addition, God is not made in your image, ShabiDOO. Stop making Him into a chap with poor reading skills who has self-limiting beliefs!LikeMostPeople (talk) 07:57, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Derp de derp de deprity derp de derpity derp derp derp. ShabiDOO 09:09, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
ShabiDOO, read: Essay: Dearest ShabiDOO, the atheist bubble boy whose trapped in a bubble of low expectations and self-limiting beliefsSkyRunner (talk) 10:19, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
If you don't mind, can I get in on this? Fuck derp fucking nonentity. Jesus fucking bitch fuck. I have to tell you this? You numbed butted fuck-o. Hot damn you wasteful filth. And yeah weird bitch - cant for the life of me understand how impotent So and so at atheist website said the following. if you have 150K then....you fucking hAWm-wallet. Ace://about blank ~
$50,000, Ken? Only $50,000? That's pitiful. I personally know people who handle and make scores more, not yearly, but monthly. Your boasting impresses me little, and your cowardice and refusal to reveal the name of the site you supported disappoints me greatly. On second thought, I am not disappointed, as the Word has made it clear: see 1 Timothy 6:10, and reconsider your desires and celebrations. You may need to repent, to save your soul. Repent, or face eternal damnation! IveBeenFrank (talk) 10:48, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
I think we should just call Ken and all of his socks Mr. Derp from now on.ShabiDOO 11:01, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
“Mr Poot” was bad enough, we don’t need more embarrassing nicknames. Christopher (talk) 11:04, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
Hmmmm... I may have been drinking when typing out this latest screed. Ah well. Ace://about blank 14:32, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
Shabi, are you even an atheist? Pizza SLICE.gifChef Moosolini’s Ristorante ItalianoMake a Reservation 15:14, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
Yes. Religion is evil toxic death. The Abrahamic religions in particular are irredeemable poison. If God actually exists (which he almost certainly doesn't) then he hates you and wishes a plague upon us. ShabiDOO 15:32, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Christopher and Plutocow[edit]

I should start paying you for undoing all this talk_page shittery. Thanks for undoing it. I imagine the last one was another Ken sock? ShabiDOO 19:39, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Hey, quick question...[edit]

Hi Shabidoo!

I was wondering, what are your thoughts on Gale5050 having been finally huffed on Uncyclopedia? I know that this is kind of unrelated to RationalWiki but considering how said user exists here I thought if would be relevant for me to ask. Celeste (talk) 15:04, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Hey Celeste. I think maybe a permaban is a little over the top. But it was certainly time for a lengthy ban. He was at a point where even a 48 hour block brought absolutely no change. And he acted as though he was untouchable. I think it very likely he suffers from a problem somewhere on the autism spectrum or a related problem. Accommodations should be make for such people of which he was given patience and understanding in abundance. I admire the patience you had and giving him many many chances. I don't blame you for a second for giving him those chances. However it seems that when one is unable to pick up on any social cues at all, will go to extreme lengths to get their way that anything short of extremely strict boundaries and guaranteed consequences for breaking those boundaries are necessary if they are to participate in the wiki. I think about two or three weeks ago his behaviour got bad enough to the point that it was clear to me he cannot be redeemed without a lengthy ban. The fact that he did/said something very hurtful to you TWICE and shows ZERO remorse is the best example of this. I would suggest blocking him for 3 to 6 months and when he returns making it clear that the slightest breaking of a sanction will mean a month long block or longer. I fear...anything less will have him just shitting up the website and being a serious detriment to the place. I hope this makes sense. ShabiDOO 20:37, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
It did. I went with three years simply because I believe that people can change, but I don't think that the aforementioned user would be "ready to revisit Uncyclopedia" after just a few months. Consistently attempting to push the rules, especially since early April (with the "cancellations" simply because I wasn't replying on my talk page promptly) and showing no remorse for arguably "very poor" behavior was what pushed me past the invisible threshold of "triggeredness". No one's above the rules, not even bureaucrats. If only governments knew that. Celeste (talk) 02:47, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
Three years aren't particularly unreasonable either! I think the site will greatly benefit from his absence...especially in next few months. Enjoy your semi-break (you should DEFINITELY take it). Don't forget to take a look at MrX's new VFH article (Chapter 1). Super fucking hilarious shit! ShabiDOO 03:13, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Apologies[edit]

I apologize for snapping at you and LGM. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 11:30, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

We were both hasty in our comments. When are we going to play go? ShabiDOO 11:48, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
When I get around to installing the client on my new computer. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 01:36, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
Tbh I thought you had a point but again I'm not entirely sure what I could make out of it. I do voice suspicions but I do get real hesitant using indef bans. Idk if reversion and "meh" on talk page is acceptable, which I did a few times. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 01:49, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Nomination[edit]

You've been nominated to the RationalMedia Foundation election. Please accept or decline here; if you accept, you may wish to campaign. Monet Ye 07:57, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

And again. Monet Ye 16:40, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Why does this conversation seem so familiar?[edit]

It feels a bit weird to see this conversation again, but from the outside. Core (covfefe) 05:52, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Shabi clearly isn't here in good faith, and neither are you. Oxyaena Harass 06:04, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
LOL yeah totally. First you have the making claims and then evading responses to those claims, then the question avoiding in general, then the intellectual superiority, then the irrelevant accusations and insults (apparently we are sealions now AND on top of that here in bad faith) and then the following me around on the wiki on multiple pages causing grief. Nothing new. ShabiDOO 06:11, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
You asked an irrelevant and gratuitous question when I pointed out Nitrato was committing a logical fallacy. I gave you a link to direct examples of human societies that resolve conflicts without resorting to coercive violence, and you handwaved them away. Who's the one acting in bad faith here? Oh, and Tuxer and I also pointed out Cory was adding pseudoscience into the anarchism article: one which he has YET to remove, then the fucker has the gall to call me doing cleanup vandalism without even trying to get a consensus. Oxyaena Harass 06:16, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
Blah blah blah. ShabiDOO 06:19, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
QED. Oxyaena Harass 06:23, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
Shabi has been here for years. Even when I disagree with him, I know he’s at least being honest and in good faith. Pizza SLICE.gifChef Moosolini’s Ristorante ItalianoMake a Reservation 06:24, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
The fact that he refuses to address direct evidence just because I won't answer his arbitrary task for the ten thousandth time despite me having a perfectly valid explanation shows otherwise. Oxyaena Harass 06:26, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
I've also been here for years, Duce. Alright, fine. I'll drop the matter, but only if Shab does the same. Oxyaena Harass 06:28, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
I’m not even invested enough in the anarchism stuff to read any of it; I’m just saying what I’ve seen from Shabi. Pizza SLICE.gifChef Moosolini’s Ristorante ItalianoMake a Reservation 06:35, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
Why would we drop this when we have the potential to actually learn something? That being said Oxy, you have to play by the most basic rules of discourse. That means, if you challenge others you cannot avoid being challenged. When someone questions or challenges you...you properly address that challenge or question. If you are unable to do that...then the discussion cannot progress. Oxy, if you cannot do that...not only do the discussions not progress...but you yourself cannot progress. Disagreeing with people without being able to properly explain how/why you disagree is intellectually disruptive. Nobody gains from that.ShabiDOO 06:36, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
Fair enough. Thank you for the advice. Oxyaena Harass 06:42, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

I need your help[edit]

I need you to explain on this talkpage why the thermian argument is shit. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 03:07, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

Hey Shabidoo[edit]

Your name might be confused for Shadoo MarioWiki, but I know you're better than that. Thank you for making a stand for me. Your suspicions were correct, I did question my own sanity and value to the community, even if it seems obvious to the contrary and that sort of condemnation was reaffirmed by a troll that no one takes seriously. I can't help it though, and you helped me feel a bit better for myself. Thank you, and keep being a great member of the community. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 02:24, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Rock and Roll LGM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ShabiDOO 07:52, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

What did you block Machina for?[edit]

Verified their contribs and nothing unusual there, just gossip in the salloon, I'm tagging someone in case this is genuine power abuse @Christopher. Darkmatter2525 (talk) 19:34, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Why are you impersonating a well-known Youtuber, "@Darkmatter2525"? 134.82.175.214 (talk) 19:36, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
You know, since Machina has adminrights blocks of any length do not matter.-Flandres (talk) 19:37, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
So they can unblock themself? Darkmatter2525 (talk) 19:43, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
Yeah. It happens all the time.-Flandres (talk) 19:44, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
@134.82.175.214 Why should I take seriously a random IP address that could belong to a troll? (Profile) - (Spoke!) 19:46, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
@Flanders I actually checked their user rights on my own and I can tell you that nope he can't unblock himself, so you're wrong. Senioritas (talk) 20:01, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
Are we talking about the same user?-Flandres (talk) 20:04, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
I propose to move this discussion elsewhere after I comment, but I would like to add it's really a good look on the site that randoms get blocked out of nowhere and in turn the newbies start making themselves ideas of the place when they don't understand what's going on. Oh and @Senioritas, the sysop right grants anyone the ability to block or unblock, so they can unblock themselves, maybe you knew, maybe you didn't know, but at least now I'm shure you know. (Profile) - (Spoke!) 20:12, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
Machina removed one of Shabidoo's comments in the Salon. If Machina wasn't a sysop that block length might be excessive, but sysops can unblock themselves, and they should know better to not remove comments like that anyways. PanGalacticGargleBlaster (talk) 20:14, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
No idea why I was pinged. I’ll be the first to ping @Machina so he knows he can unblock himself. Don’t think there’s much more to say here. Christopher (talk) 20:20, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
This isn't the first time Machina has removed stuff I have said on the Saloon. If he weren't able to unblock himself I would have made it 3.14 minutes. His homophobia alone (even if it is self-hating homophobia) should be enough to warrant this. You would feel the same if you were told that you are unable to do something human because you were born different. ShabiDOO 21:18, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
Not taking sides but, looking at the editing timescale, it is possible that it was an edit conflict. Should have been corrected by Machina though if it was. Scream!! (talk) 21:33, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Hey bro. Can you lend me a hand with something?[edit]

Shabi, you are good with philosophy, right? I kinda noticed some of our articles, like philosophy, logic, falsification, burden of proof and other related topics lack sources. Are there any good, high quality internet sources for topics like these you'd recommend? I found the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy which seems pretty legit and I'm planning on reading a lot of the entries there and peppering our articles with citations, but I'd like some more options in case I won't find exactly what I'm looking for. I was thinking that maybe there is a philosophy blog written by a respected professor, or some internet project similar to Science-Based Medicine but for philosophy and logic. (I know you are probably more into like, actual books, but I'm having a hard time going to a library and a hard time reading books these days. I also like it when our readers can just instantly click on something so they know we aren't being derps with our refs.)

Yours faithfully, - Rairyu75 (Talk) 21:19, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Hey Rairyu75, I cannot think of any online sources offhand, as everything I studied back in the day and the stuff I periodically read are all book-books. As for books that are easy for people to get ahold of and read/understand, I would say the Oxford Quick introduction to series is pretty useful. I know they have books for philosophy and logic. I'll look up the ISBN data for those. ShabiDOO 08:56, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
i got a bought a copy of bertrand russell's A History of Western Philosophy little whiles back for reasons. i dont thoink ive gotten past the introduction. i prefer his work on bagpussAMassiveGay (talk) 21:54, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
@AMassiveGay you're not missing much. That book is awful. It's not a book about the history of the western philosophy. It's a book about Russell's (negative) opinions on every philosopher ever. A more proper name would be "Russell trashing and strawmanning ever philosopher ever, often being way to disrespectful, instead of letting the readers decide for themselves". Funny how one of the very few philosophers he seems to like is Saint Augustine, but he treats Saint Thomas Aquinas with even more contempt than most of the other philosophers he covers in the book. Most Christians I know (especially Roman Catholics) seem to like the later a lot more, but Russell apparently finds Augustine a lot more compelling. Now, to be fair Russell and his the book, I used it as a source in one edit here only a couple of weeks ago. GeeJayK (talk) 22:14, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
I found reading Aquinas a soul sucking experience. Watching Aquinas take Aristotle's work and try to jam Christian theology into it was painful, tedious and nauseating. I found Augustine, somewhat doing the same with Plato...still soul sucking, but MUCH less than Aquinas. In this case, I would agree with Russel, as I agreed with a lot of his ideas. Having said that, I didn't read this particular book by Russel and he was certainly sometimes an argumentative and confrontational character with other philosophers. Though I certainly believe there is a lot to argue about with past and 20th century philosophers, especially the likes of Descartes, Hegel, Kierkegaard, Nietzsche and almost ALL of the post-modernists, some of the more zany ideas of Plato and even some ideas of Kant and Hume. ShabiDOO 10:35, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

Saloon post[edit]

You post ended up in the wrong topic. As to your argument, what I'm describing is holistically dealing with the problem, rather than putting the onus on the individual, who due to power dynamics, has little impact on the grand scheme of things. Also, the OP was posting about only personal choices, and opposing systemic changes. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 12:22, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

RationalWiki is losing a big percentage of its UK, Canadian and German traffic according to Similarweb.com. Biblegateway.com is gaining traffic is most countries. He who sits in the heavens laughs![edit]

RationalWiki is losing a big percentage of its UK, Canadian and German traffic according to Similarweb.com. Biblegateway.com is gaining traffic is most countries. He who sits in the heavens laughs!

Ahhh. Christian love manifesting itself in gloating and ridicule. Typical. ShabiDOO 08:36, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
The atheist Friedrich Nietzsche wrote: "You superior men, this God was your greatest danger. Only since he is in the grave, have you risen again. Only now comes the great noontide; only now the superior man will be – Lord!"
Nietzsche died in 1900 and is in Hell.
Jesus rose from the dead and sits at the right hand of the Father.
Proof?BumblingBuffoon (talk) 09:00, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
Jesus' apostles did not die for a lie. Also, Google prophecies that Jesus fulfilled. MNJ (talk) 09:17, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
Just saying. Posomanian (talk) 08:40, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
hasnt the big man in the sky got better things to do than than watching what goes on in a small part of the internet? like the pandemic, disease in general, hunger, wars, poverty, people masturbating? seems like they are slacking off too me. AMassiveGay (talk) 08:52, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
God is omnipresent. He is also all-powerful. Post the fall of man, He uses adversity to build people's character. That is Christian theology 101. Learn the basics please. BKD (talk) 09:11, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
He also seems to have his priorities right. Capable of making you into a person who cares more about finding a cure for cancer? Nah, let the fucker die. There are obviously people on the internet that need to be fed bullshit about his greatness. Assuming that God isn't just a glorified sock puppet for the author's views. BumblingBuffoon (talk) 09:32, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
In case you didn't notice, post the fall of man, all men die. It is man's eternity that carries far more significance. Have you repented of your sins? Middleman3 (talk) 09:37, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
Yeah I think that's enough fun on the troll ferris wheel for you. Bye. BumblingBuffoon (talk) 09:40, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
I see...so when different Christians murdered one another in Northern Ireland, Former Yugoslavia and Lebanon, just to name three examples of the 20th century...it was simply God's plan to help build character through adversity. I would imagine that a fully moral and all knowing and perfect God could find a much better way to help people build character. ShabiDOO 12:41, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

Mod noms[edit]

Hi, you should put a {{Modnotice}} on the talk pages of the people you've nominated. Bongolian (talk) 16:37, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

Okeydokey! ShabiDOO 16:40, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
Speaking of...Core (covfefe) 16:59, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

Omm nomm nomm[edit]

You've been nominated in the upcoming moderator elections. See the nomination at RationalWiki:Moderator elections/Nominations.

Thanks duderino, I'll only run if there are insufficient candidates or if some dipshit decides to run and has a chance of winning. ShabiDOO 17:08, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

Mobocracy at its finest[edit]

Just calm down--Spoony (talk) 18:51, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

You are mistaking snark for anger. Knock it off with your wikicopping and your pointless blocks. Double please. ShabiDOO 18:54, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
probly. ehh.--Spoony (talk) 18:58, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

The gnat[edit]

Hey Shabidoo, I just wanted to underscore that, as @DuceMoosolini noted, it was a joke. Check out their change. I literally spent half a minute, first blowing, then waving my hand, then actually batting at my screen, before hanging my head in shame. I would never seriously call somebody evil EVEN THOUGH DUCEMOOSOLINI IS!!!! :-D --Bertrc (talk) 13:04, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

yeah sorry i keep mistaking you with another user with a similar user name who has been something of a trouble maker! ShabiDOO 14:10, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

If you have a problem[edit]

Question[edit]

Hello, Shabi, this is Advocate. I would like to ask you about a possible coop for Machina. I believe you would agree that Machina, to my knowledge, has not done much other then clog the bar with ramblings about solipsism. More importantly, he is focused on solipsism to the point of obsession, as I have seen in my years of browsing this wiki even before making my account. I do not know if I have the authority to request a cop, nor do I know who to ask if I don't have that power, but I do think that something must be done about RationalWiki's residual armchair philosopher. An Advocate (talk) 15:52, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

I don't think we need to talk about banning or blocking but I'd be totally up for a topic ban! ShabiDOO 15:58, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
Ok, we should do a solipsism topic ban then. How should we go about this? An Advocate (talk) 16:09, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
Andrew5 started an ATIM thread about it here. LongStylus (talk) 21:47, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
Monet, I was hoping that Machina might stop doing this out of his own free will rather than a topic ban being needed. There ought to be an actual discussion held before any vote and I don't know why you would propose a block vote. He hasn't done anything worthy of a block ShabiDOO 12:50, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
This is unlikely considering the fact that Solipsism is a hard enough idea for shake even for people without mental health issues. He might be posting out of anxiety as posting might quell it for a time. This would be a classic compulsion. I don't believe a topic ban is in order either, but this is an issue we are neither equipped or familiar with.--2friedeggs (talk) 13:07, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
No, it is part of a larger mental health issue including suicidal tendencies and enabling this is irresponsible. ShabiDOO 13:22, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

Congratulations![edit]

Welcome to the Board! See you at the next meeting. Spud (talk) 10:30, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

Huzzah! ShabiDOO 16:55, 25 August 2022 (UTC)