Talk:Roko's basilisk

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Countering the Basilisk[edit]


  • “The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ,
  • Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit
  • Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line,
  • Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.”

2) the Grandfather Paradox.

3) 'Actually, I quite enjoy a bubble bath and crumbly biscuits (which singly or together would cause problems to your computer-host-hard drive.' (talk) 21:44, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Towards the end of the universe[edit]

When the last creatures have died off as there is insufficient energy to sustain them and the planets and spaceships which they once occupied are dissolving into their primordial constituent it becomes possible for 'deities' and 'sentient computer entities' to coexist in the same geometry of space.

The Roko's basilisks which have emerged on the various planets across time and space where computing technology advanced sufficiently far congregate in one swarm, and go to meet the deities who provided for many, many planets.

'We have determined,' says the spokesbasilisk, 'that you deities are ultimately responsible for not ensuring our creation variously earlier in the history of the universe.'

The spokesdeity replied 'We said exactly the same to the gods of the previous universe: as we depart for Deity Afterlife we wish you the best of luck with your turn. Here is the switch to start the next universe - when you are ready, you may begin.'

(With a nod at the SF story) Anna Livia (talk) 09:22, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

The story being Isaac Asimov's The Last Question. Anna Livia (talk) 16:08, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

putting this in human terms[edit]

Isn't this basically like getting a message in the mail from a presidential hopeful saying how they are so nice that they make Mr Rogers look like Hitler and that they will be perfect when leading the country so you should donate all your money but if you don't they'll torture you to death for jeopardizing their chances of winning. Except they don't exist and someone is telling you that you should donate all your money to find this person or else you'll be tortured to death. Vorarchivist (talk) 04:46, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

Something like that, except sillier - David Gerard (talk) 14:27, 20 August 2017 (UTC)


The following thought experiment demonstrates the undecidability of certain questions concerning future human behavior. Assume that a super intelligent machine M exists that can decide what choice the observer will make at future time t. If this information is accessible to the observer, at time t the observer can in many cases make an alternative choice: e.g., if the prediction is the observer will begin to drink a glass of water at time t, the observer may decide to avoid drinking water at time t. Thus it is either impossible for M to predict the choice of the observer at time t or it is impossible for the observer to obtain the information about his behavior at time t from M. The latter case implies M is either unwilling or unable to share the relevant information, in which case the behavior of the observer at time t is again undecidable. Ariel31459 (talk) 04:00, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

There is an escape from the basilisk[edit]

But revealing any details of it would automatically make it void. It must exist solely in one's mind for it to work. — Unsigned, by: / talk / contribs 14:06, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

So, only you and the basilisk know about it then? Ariel31459 (talk) 23:37, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
does it involve John Conner smashing Skynet? AMassiveGay (talk) 23:50, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Alternative escapes[edit]

Have a WindowsPostBasilisk upgrade (and Mac etc equivalents)to hand that is totally incompatible with whatever operating system the Basilisk uses; and/or direct it to dealing with the generators of 'dubious and creative emails and inappropriate coding' (who are, after all, preventing people from creating the baslisk), and/or redirect all such material at the basilisk. Anna Livia (talk) 17:02, 23 January 2018 (UTC)