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this article is wildly russophobic and anti-communist

if rationalwiki wants to consider itself progressive in any way this article should be rewritten top to bottom. thanks ^{— Unsigned, by: 35.138.88.3 / talk}

--It's-a me, 🎄LeftyGreenMario!🎄 03:28, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

As not yet done so will reference Fun:Drinking Game Anna Livia (talk) 12:31, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

Roskomnadzor

Roskomnadzor, or Federal Service for Supervision of Communications, Information Technology and Mass Media, is basically a censorship committee. It has a long history being a pain in the arse for Russian citizens. Once they even blocked GitHub and Wikipedia.In their attempt to block Telegram they managed to block from 800K to 2M IP addresses in just one day, basically shutting down the Internet for Russia. ^{— Unsigned, by: Cuddlef1sh / talk / contribs}

South Sakhalin, Kuril Islands and Shikotan Islands disputed.

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Treaty_of_San_Francisco

ソ連は、日ソ中立条約で領土不拡大の原則を約束したにも関わらず、日本領南樺太・千島列島・色丹列島を侵略しました。樺太は日本人・間宮林蔵が先に発見しています。

↑サンフランシスコ講和条約で日本は南樺太・千島列島の放棄を命じられましたが、原文には引き渡し国についての規定がなく、かつソ連はサンフランシスコ講和条約に調印していません。

南樺太・千島列島のソ連への割譲を規定したヤルタ協定は1956年に無効となっています。よってロシアに南樺太・千島列島の領有権を主張する権利はありません。

色丹諸島(歯舞諸島と色丹島)に関しては千島列島ではありません[ロシア側では"Little Kuril Islands"と呼称する]。歯舞は根室国、色丹は根室国で後に千島国に移管されましたが、地理的には千島列島ではありません。

日本は南樺太・北千島列島を放棄しましたが、北方領土(南千島列島の国後島・択捉島及び色丹列島の歯舞群島・色丹島)の領有権を主張しています。この地域はロシアによる占領を除けば、一度も他国の領土になったことがありません。先住民アイヌ族は、琉球と異なり国家を持っていませんでした。

ロシアは2014年に勝手にウクライナ領クリミア半島を侵略しています。この国に国際法は守れません。卑怯な侵略国家です。もし、「かつて合法的にロシア領だった」という理由で南樺太・千島列島がロシア領であるなら、かつてソ連領だったクリミア半島の併合も許されること

日本社会党(現:社会民主党)は南樺太・千島列島返還論、日本共産党は千島列島返還論です。左翼の方が領土問題に拘る傾向にあります。売国自民党は2001年に豊原に総領事館を設置し、2018年にはロシアによる北方領土に対する不法占領を黙認するかのような立場をとりました。そして、2020年にロシアの憲法改正で「領土割譲禁止」が追加された時、自民党日本政府は何の対抗措置も取りませんでした。

英語は下手なので日本語で応じました。ご了承ください。--Karasawa Takahiro (talk) 22:23, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

일본 우익은 보수주의가 아니라 그저 강자한테 약하고 약자한테 강한 찌질이들인거 같습니다. 일본 정계에서 '독도 문제'를 대하는 태도와 달리 '쿠릴 열도 문제'를 대하는 태도가 좌우익이 완전히 상반되어 있는걸 보면요. 일본 우익들은 러시아와 미국은 힘쎄고 강해보이니까 고개 숙이고 순종적으로 나오는 것이고, 한국은 약하고 만만해보이니까 갈구고 괴롭히는거 같네요.--BluePink (talk) 01:14, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

It's really interesting that the Liberal Democratic Party of Japan, the Trump of the United States, the right-wing populist of Europe, the fundamentalists of Islam... Many far-right around the world seem to be pro-Russian. But with the exception of the far-right in the South Korea.(the far-right in the South Korea are still less pro-Russian than the left, and it seems that Korea has not yet deviated from the political conception of the Cold War era.)

某個人、竹島・尖閣に関しては単に「資源の出る小島」としか認識しておらず、広大な土地を持つ南樺太並びに沖縄よりも大きな面積を持つ千島列島をロシアに不当に奪われたことは本邦の利益を大きく毀損したと思う。そして、ロシアに取っては樺太は「極東の辺地」として見ていないから、北樺太含めて人口は日本で最も人口が少ない鳥取県と同じくらいの50万人しかいない。もし南樺太を違法に奪われなかったら、人口はきっと100万を超えていたはず。そして、豊原は中核市、運が良ければ政令指定都市になっていたかもしれない。

日本は、ロシアに対して経済制裁を課すべきだ。弱腰自民党のせいで、長らく国際司法裁判所に訴えず、国内だけでダラダラと「北方領土は日本の領土」としか言わず、海外に向けての主張が少なかった。某は、北方四島返還でも不満です。南樺太・全千島返還論が望ましい。日本は今すぐ豊原総領事館を撤去し、南樺太・千島列島の都市と姉妹都市提携をしている北海道の全ての自治体に対して解消措置を申し込め。そして、南樺太・北千島の領有権を主張せよ。

なお、ロシアは北朝鮮を支援しており、2000年の国歌改正や、かつ「ベラルーシ・ロシア連合国家」の様にソ連回帰の動きが指摘されるので日本の保守派のほとんどは反ロシアです。しかし、極稀に例外もいます。

Lol Russia had South Sakhalin first before Japan took it in a war. It was only fair that Russia took it back in the next war. Chef Moosolini’s Ristorante Italiano^{Make a Reservation} 01:44, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

樺太島を先に発見したのはロシアではなく、江戸幕府から派遣された日本人・間宮林蔵だ。日本は久春古丹(大泊 / コルサコフ)に事務所を置いた。間宮林蔵に比べれば樺太島についての伝記を書いただけのチェーホフはゴミに過ぎない。日本は1808年、ロシアは1848年に樺太が島であることを確認している。間宮海峡(Mamiya Strait)。

I agree with Duce. Japan has a strong nationalism. However, the difference is that nationalism in the right is directed toward the weaker countries, and nationalism in the left is toward the stronger countries. Unlike Europe and the United States, Japan has a minority of anti-nationalist leftists and liberals.--BluePink (talk) 12:24, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Kuril Islands Disputed (return)

The Chishima(Kuril) Islands are Japanese territory recognized by the European Parliament. It's not Russia. https://euvsdisinfo.eu/report/informed-japanese-believe-that-kuril-islands-are-an-integral-part-of-russia/

--Karasawa Takahiro (talk) 06:38, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

currently disputed but administered by russia, who are unlikely to give up any disputed territory any time soon - they are too strategically important to them. with the european parliament, that article refers to a non binding resolution. it has no legal weight.

the disputed islands are de facto russian territory. AMassiveGay (talk) 09:10, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

With that logic, the Crimea will also be a Russian territory. Do you agree?--Karasawa Takahiro (talk) 10:51, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

it literally is de facto russian territory, and probably another reason they wont be giving kuril up anytime soon - they would not want to set any kind of precedent.

its not really the same issue though. the russian intervention and annexation of crimea is recent and still fresh in our minds, while the situation that preceded it is stil ongoing in the form of the donbass conflict. its faced international condemnation from the outset, not of the non binding kind, but of the kind that puts in place sanctions. still likely to remain n russia hands for the forseable future, and the longer it does, the more likely it will become undisputedly russian, its people just get used to that new reality.

kuril islands were invaded at such a time that there was no outcry, and its long enough to go that its demographics are essentially russian, and japans argument hinges on ignoring one treaty, technicalities in another. russias argument does too but they are already in place and going no place. japan has no leverage to horse trade and any kind of moral right is a little too weak to garner any serious international backing.

the population seems none too keen on going with japan either.AMassiveGay (talk) 11:58, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

BluePink

The Soviet Union broke the Soviet-Japanese Neutrality Treaty and invaded Karafuto. Some locals have been slaughtered. What is fair about this? Duce Mussolini seems to be an anti-communist according to the user page, but why defend the Soviet Union? To BluePink, if you take a Russian-oriented position on Karafuto, you'll break off friendship.--Karasawa Takahiro (talk) 19:07, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Communism and socialism Category

This is not in keeping with the current Russia. Rather, the conservative category should be included. The ideology that now rules Russia is extreme conservatism, not fascism or communism. Even more anti-communist South Koreans than the U.S. do not consider Russia as socialism. Putin has a fascist element, but the conservative/coperative state-controlled economy and communism are very different. Umaru16 (talk) 06:58, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

United Russia, the ruling party, is an obvious conservative party and is not a socialist or communist. Umaru16 (talk) 07:06, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

This. Russia tries to be the arch-conservative. Fuck Russia, Fuck Putin and fuck its simps, especially the Serbian ones. 🇷🇸 Serbiter (Wort wort wort) 21:19, 17 November 2023 (UTC)