Talk:Spider-Man fallacy

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Spider-Man isn't real???!! - Smerdis of Tlön, LOAD "*", 8, 1. 02:36, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

With great characterisation comes great income - David Gerard (talk) 10:41, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

This isn't a fallacy![edit]

True, Spiderman isn't real just because the setting is real, but no one is CLAIMING spider-man is an accurate depicion of events! The Bible is being asserted as a historical document, and portrays itself as one as a secondary goal (The first, as the word of God!)! With that, it fulfills its duty, and as such, comparison to modern fictional works never TOUTED as accurate history/events is a False analogy!-- (talk) 04:59, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

no one is CLAIMING spider-man is an accurate depicion of events
If people did, then according to your logic it would be just as valid as the Bible. Consider how silly that is. The FCP Foundation (talk/stalk) 14:43, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
People do claim the Bible is a completely accurate, infallible, word of God accurate in all respects (including history). Like Bryan Fischer. -EmeraldCityWanderer (talk) 15:20, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

The obvious fallacy[edit]

While S & G may well have existed - but 'the locals' probably did not call them by those names (Suomi, Deutschland, Misr, Bhārat Gaṇarājya) - so 'the archaeologists' will never find 'Welcome to Sodom (turn right at next junction for Gomorrah)' signs, or 'This foundation stone laid by the Mayor of Gomorrah'/'Sodom late night laundry' shop fascia to prove the statement. (talk) 15:54, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Wouldn't it be more effective to use The Odyssey?[edit]

While the Christians' original argument ("Sodom existed, therefore the Bible is true") is fallacious, I think they are right to point out that the comparison with Spider-Man is apples and oranges because Spider-Man was intended as fiction from the outset, whereas the Bible was not.

I realize using Spider-Man is funnier, but it's practically inviting the "two different genres" argument. The Odyssey, meanwhile, was once in the same genre as the Bible in the sense that it was a historical and religious work, albeit one that almost nobody believes anymore. And the ruins of Troy have been discovered, which draws a very neat comparison with the alleged discovery of Sodom. - Furrykef (talk) 02:28, 20 October 2017 (UTC)