Talk:Steven Crowder

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Steven Crowder's evil, reprehensible friendships/associations

There is one remark in this obviously disparaging hitpiece of an article that stood out to me:

"In reality, Crowder is passionately pro-Israel and opposes antisemitism,[38][39][40][41] despite him originally having good buddy and occasional substitute host Owen Benjamin being a fucking Holocaust denier and straight-up Neo-Nazi who he only cut ties with after Benjamin told him the Moon landing was a hoax."

So basically what you're saying is that Crowder should be held morally responsible for not taking more initiative in burning the bridge with Owen Benjamin for his apparent neo-nazism. Does this mean that I can hold this wiki responsible for all the anarchists, communists, marxists, and other radical leftists who use it? There's a user in this very talk page with the hammer and sickle in this name (could be just joking about it but still).

Or does this standard magically not apply to the left-wing? --66.222.168.21 (talk) 03:57, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

No, it’s not just about Crowder having been palling around with a Neo-Nazi Holocaust denier, but that it was apparently the moon hoaxing, not the Neo-Nazism that was the deal breaker in this relation. That should be pretty obvious from the wording. Also, cut out with the whataboutism and false equivalence, will ya’? ScepticWombat (talk) 14:18, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Mmkay, well I'm just going to take your response as an admission that no, you don't hold the left-wing to that standard. And it's not a fucking false equivalence. This guy is clearly a user of this website, and the faceless hack who runs it has the opportunity to disavow him but doesn't. Again, he could be joking about being a commie, but I doubt you'd be charitable with me if I jokingly had Pepe The Frog in my username. ^{— Unsigned, by: 2001:56A:F90C:B300:7042:35CD:DCB1:D7D3 / talk}

I mean it helps that I mock the Soviets a lot, support increased power to the common man, and generally punch up in my humor. Weird how neo-nazis don't really do any of that. It's also weird how you completely ignored @ScepticWombat's point in order to make a whataboutist ad hominem attack on someone who wasn't part of the conversation... Weird that. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 21:15, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

What point? Holocaust denial and moon-landing denial are both batshit insane positions. Does it really matter that much which one Crowder chose to disavow him over?

Furthermore, this article doesn't even cite any evidence that Crowder knew he was a neo-nazi yet didn't do anything. Is he supposed to keep close tabs of every single position of everyone he knows? Of course not, that's retarded. --75.155.77.46 (talk) 01:37, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

Not really. It's called basic self awareness and research. It takes about an hour. But I personally don't blame Crowder for palling around with neo-nazis, after all, he is one. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 01:44, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

I mean if I had to disavow someone for his beliefs, Neo-Nazism would be a quicker withdraw than moon landing hoax given the former's immediate toxicity. --It's-a me, 🎄LeftyGreenMario!🎄 01:55, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘” Holocaust denial and moon-landing denial are both batshit insane positions. Does it really matter that much which one Crowder chose to disavow him over?” I’m not sure, whether to take this question seriously. Do you really have to ask others to figure out why it matters more that someone subscribes to a conspiracy theory that NASA for some weird reason decided to fake the moon landings versus one that denies an industrialised genocide killing millions and motivated by an extreme, racist chauvinistic political ideology? To latch onto the fact that they are both ”batshit insane positions” misses the rather obvious differences in the implications they each have. As for the false equivalence, holding an entire wiki(!) that is not set up to promote some radical ideology (i.e. unlike, say, Metapedia) responsible for some of its users’ ideological views is again obviously and qualitatively different from a person(!) choosing to associate and co-host with an extremist conspiracy theorist and genocide denier. ScepticWombat (talk) 07:17, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi, it's me from the future, significantly less right-wing than I used to be. For the most part I disavow my piss poor attempt to defend Crowder here. Sorry for wasting your times here guys. 2604:3D09:7478:D000:F17B:A7A5:BE7A:AD8 (talk) 06:56, 5 December 2022 (UTC)idk

Polish the opening?

"Steven Crowder (1987–) is a professional asshole, commentator and self-described comedian who supports conservative and libertarian views." Is the "professional asshole" part a quote from Crowder himself, or is it just RationalWiki editors throwing in their two cents, like when they call his site a "webshite"? I am a Christian, and while I am disappointed at his BatteredLesbians.org website (it looks like a real charity website at first, but clicking on "Donate" leads to him smirking and shilling for Mug Club memberships), I support his right to free speech. Disagree with you must, but I don't believe that the best way to counter Crowder's work (positions, arguments, and at times name-calling) is with more name-calling.

Also, why does it say "1987–" instead of "born July 7, 1987"? It feels off to use an undetermined range. --LABcrab (talk) 00:48, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

the date of birth format is standard style here and templates. and crowder is infact a professional asshole. pls respect our right to free speech. EK (talk) 12:07, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Removing Episode 666

Episode 666 section adds nothing and seems to just be a random mentioning of the episode. Deleting the topic.^{— Unsigned, by: Fanfreak247 / talk / contribs}

Sam Seder

@GrammarCommie why was the mention of Crowder's justification for not engaging in a debate with Sam Seder removed? It points out the hypocrisy of Crowder not debating Seder due to his comparatively lower YouTube viewership, while he frequently engages in debates with anonymous college students? 2601:CC:0:4A20:38A5:29D9:960E:A380 (talk) 19:00, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Crowder's "bisexual phase"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iDopg2H8nE

In which Crowder very briefly alludes to having a bisexual "phase". The original video is from 2018, although I don't know which video it's cut from. It might actually be deleted. This link is one of a small handful of reaction videos I was able to find that contain part of the original. Chillpilled (talk) 14:46, 12 December 2023 (UTC)