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Archive 1 LQT Archive

Generally[edit]

people like it if you atleast in some way archive the liquidthread when you remove it--MikallakiM 22:46, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Or at least put up this link. Peter mqzp 22:52, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
Done. ఠ_ఠ Тод Зенос ан форфар фор 23:29, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
That's not much of an archive. There's no easy way to tell the most recent threads from the earliest. WėąṣėḷőįďWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 23:42, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
I doubt anyone's going to read it. The only reason why I care about users archiving their talk pages properly is because some of them are going to use clearing the page as a way of getting rid of warnings or block notices. ఠ_ఠ Тод Зенос ан форфар фор 01:57, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
Is there really no way to properly archive Liquid threads? Or is IE just being a twat? DamoHi 03:14, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
There's what I did (listed by most recently edited and everything). Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 03:55, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
Good job with organizing that. Considering that no one's actually ever going to go back and read it, I don't really feel like taking the time to arrange it into a list. I can understand that people wouldn't want to lose massive (all) discussions if LQT were to go under, but for the most part, the loss of user talk page discussions wouldn't be much of a problem. ఠ_ఠ Тод Зенос ан форфар фор 04:44, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
You might want to take a closer look at how it was done. Peter mqzp 04:47, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
Ok, thanks, that's a lot better. If it's done automatically than I can do it. ఠ_ఠ Тод Зенос ан форфар фор 04:59, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

What exactly is your problem?[edit]

First you make this weird, out-of-the-blue comment that I am unable to figure out the justification for, then you repeatedly remove my comment from my talk page, and then you drop a substantial block on me, i guess for undoing your unjustified removal of my comment. What the hell is wrong with you today? Inspiration Move me brightly. 15:12, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

You removed my comment. So it would have been better if I put it back. Sorry. Why did you remove my comment? ఠ_ఠ Inquisitor Ehrenstein 15:19, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
Where did I remove your comment? Inspiration Move me brightly. 15:23, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
Summary: You didn't (initially). Vox did (while nerfing the inquisitor's signature). Then the inquisitor tried to unpick that, but deleted your comment in the process. Hydrogen and Time (talk) 15:41, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Sign[edit]

On talk pages, please sign your comments using four tildes (~~~~) or by clicking on the sign button: SigButt.png on the toolbar above the edit panel. You can also indent successive talk page comments using one more colon (:) for each line. Thank you. Inspiration Move me brightly. 17:49, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

That's how I do it. –Inquisitor Sasha 17:54, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
I like how you made that edit on my talk page. –Inquisitor Sasha 17:56, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
Why not include links to your talk page? Why be an asshole when so many people have asked you to do that? Inspiration Move me brightly. 17:57, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
I'll do it, but not when you're being weird about it and spending your time stalking me and editing all my signatures. Then again, I realize it's really juvenile and I'll change it. –Inquisitor Sasha 18:01, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

I am not a troll.[edit]

Why don't you like me? I just want to make interesting discussions and share my ideas for improving the site--Inquistor Behrenstein (talk) 19:41, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Impersonation[edit]

Is a dick move, just so you know. Peter mqzp 02:58, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Replied User_talk:PeterL#ImpersonationInquisitor Sasha (Talk | contribs | block) 03:06, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Baby steps.[edit]

Can you try to go, like, 48 hours, without doing something that you end up having to apologize for? And then maybe build from there? Inspiration Move me brightly. 03:08, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Yes. –Inquisitor Sasha (Talk | contribs | block) 03:19, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

That "medal" on your user page.[edit]

It makes you look like a fool. all the more because you apparently designed it and awarded it to yourself. But having it float over the page while I scroll downwards? That's the kicker. Did he doubt/Or did he try? 12:28, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

I removed that because it looks like shit. I replaced the scrolling fixed position with the user tools template, which is far more useful. I'm also far too modest to want to be announcing it that loudly, though I think that it's something that people might want to keep it mind should they get the idea that RW would be better off without me. If you clicked the revision link, you would see that it's actually based on a verbal award for doing exactly what it says. I'll probably make a collapsible section for it, so it's not so prominent. –Inquisitor Sasha (Talk | contribs | block) 22:04, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
"I'm also far too modest to want to be announcing it that loudly" So then why do you have a GIANT RED BOX trumpeting an award you MADE UP and GAVE YOURSELF? "it's actually based on a verbal award..." That's someone saying "thank you." That is not an award. There is a difference. Did he doubt/Or did he try? 22:09, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
Calm down bro, I put it in a collapsible section where people can only see it if they scroll down to the section, and then also click a link that says to expand the section. I made the medal as a template so anyone could use it, and I needed to have something to test it on. You don't see it anymore, and neither does anyone else. –Inquisitor Sasha (Talk | contribs | block) 22:15, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
What about this (the link at the top) while you're at it? Peter mqzp 22:23, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
I'll dispose of it. I put it there when people were crapping on me, but it was a shit idea. –Inquisitor Sasha (Talk | contribs | block) 22:34, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Your signature, again.[edit]

So help me Christ, an animated GIF. I'm only surprised it took you this long to do that. Also, you have two links to your user page in your signature, but no link to your talk page. If the thunder don't get you/Then the lightning will. 20:39, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Fine. I'll fucking change it. –Nazis are bad and I don't like them Deadhorse.gif 00:15, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
I like the gif, personally.Transitional FormStill Durbinating 02:01, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
It's grotesque. Nutty Roux100x100 anarchy symbol.svg 02:38, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
LOL I totally forgot about position: fixed. Thanks! Nutty Roux100x100 anarchy symbol.svg 02:43, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Here you are, writing about rape again.[edit]

More rape. Maybe instead of an anti-bigotry wiki, you should have considered started RapeWiki. She said her name was Billie Jean and she was fresh in town/I didn't know her stage-line ran from hell. 15:01, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

I expanded that article to cover non rape subjects. Furthermore, I changed the title to not reflect rape, and to focus on additional war crimes. I suppose in your mind, it would be better to sweep the entire subject under the rug, and allow Nazi revisionists to run wild with BS claims that portray the Germans as victims of persecution by foreign invaders. I also see that you think that I should have started a wiki about rape; I don't think that you're really sarcastic about that. I did not mention rape in my recent edits; it is clear that you are obsessing about rape. –Inquisitor Ehrenstein (Talk | Contribs | Mikal's ragebox) 17:01, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
I even said this on the talk page, yet you didn't read it. Yep, clearly you are obsessing and focusing only on rape. If I wrote a 1,000 page book about some random topic and mentioned the word rape once, you would mention it. I get the feeling that you're using me to satisfy your interest in rape. I do something vaguely related, and you rant about it, thereby giving you a chance to think about rape. Nice reaction formation. –Inquisitor Ehrenstein (Talk | Contribs | Mikal's ragebox) 17:06, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
EC Yes, you are absolutely correct. I think the main purpose of this wiki should be to focus on claims that portray the Germans as victims of persecution by foreign invaders. That's exactly my agenda here. That, and as many stories about rape as possible. She said her name was Billie Jean and she was fresh in town/I didn't know her stage-line ran from hell. 17:08, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
I was mad when I wrote that. Still, I was broadening the article to include non rape related material, and did not make rape related edits. That, and for on mission work, I think your comment was unwarrented. –Inquisitor Ehrenstein (Talk | Contribs | Mikal's ragebox) 21:25, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
Just as a aside: IE, you might want to reconsider the estimate of 10 million rape victims. I've skimmed through Gertjejanssen, whom yu gave as a source and I did not find that number. As an additional aside: academi courtesy and standards usually require that you give some page numbers with your references. BUt maybe that's different where you live. Cheers Th. BernhardDas Leben ist ein Prozeß, den man verliert, was man auch tut und wer man auch ist. 20:23, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
I'll change it. I'm going to add the page numbers. The book I just added was one I cited recently, but I didn't have time to grab the page number. –Inquisitor Ehrenstein (Talk | Contribs | Mikal's ragebox) 21:25, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Have you been on a Warhammer forum?[edit]

What is that, like a chat-up line? WèàšèìòìďWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 20:10, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Hey baby, what's a nice Orc shaman like you doing in a level 3 dungeon like this? SophieWilder 20:31, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

keep that up[edit]

see how long you get to keep them fancy rights you got. --MikallakiM 18:36, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

I did a three second block. It's what we do here. Three seconds is short enough that it shouldn't cause a problem. Though, I still won't do that sort of thing a lot because it would make RC really long. –Inquisitor Ehrenstein (Talk | Contribs | Mikal's ragebox) 18:40, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
Spam be spam love--MikallakiM 18:44, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
I just said I'm not going to do it a lot, and I have not. Please, use the ragebox. –Inquisitor Ehrenstein (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 18:50, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Excessive blocks[edit]

Could you maybe tone them down? Especially when they're not in jest, and the blockee isn't even around. Peter mqzp 06:04, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Sure. Am I doing it more than other people? –Александр(а) Ehrenstein (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 06:06, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
I honestly haven't counted, but if you see anyone doing worse tell do them that they need to adhear to your stellar record of restraint and forgiveness. Peter mqzp 06:11, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
I have a record of restraint and forgiveness? –Александр(а) Ehrenstein (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 06:13, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
No. Peter mqzp 06:15, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
RNS seems to be blocking a lot. –Александр(а) Ehrenstein (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 06:17, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
It's because PeterL reminded me that I haven't started a good old fashioned block war in a few years. Feel free to join in. Reckless Noise Symphony (talk) 06:20, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
Should I ban everyone on the wiki? –Александр(а) Ehrenstein (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 06:21, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
So long as everyone blocked is a sysop.... Reckless Noise Symphony (talk) 06:37, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
don't be a knob, Peter. Acei9 06:38, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Here you go[edit]

Have the youtube video im listening to currently:
EmbedVideo received the bad id "bRdo7WXTVoM#!" for the service "youtube".
--MikallakiM 18:46, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
You seem to have an interest in drag. Are you confused? –Александр(а) Ehrenstein (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 18:56, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
You seem to have an interest in Warhammer. Are you confused? ЩєазєюіδWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 19:02, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
Those aren't related. –Александр(а) Ehrenstein (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 19:19, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
Neither are yours. WèàšèìòìďWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 19:45, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

again![edit]

what do you have against drag? --MikallakiM 06:13, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

It's a little weird but I really don't care if people do it. Both because I'm liberal enough not to want to regulate people and because I don't really give a fuck what other people do. If you do it, that's fine. I don't care what you do. You can do it; this is a free country. –Александр(а) Ehrenstein (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 06:18, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
What makes it,.... weird? --MikallakiM 06:23, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
Stop being obtuse Mikal; if you want a fight take up boxing or debating. Tielec01 (talk) 08:27, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Something from my hometown[edit]

I'm just going to leave this here--->[1] -Transitional FormStill Durbinating 03:39, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Here is something you need to know[edit]

Framing non-conformity with the norms of gender behavior as a "disorder" is closely related to the social exclusion, marginalization, and hatred of people who don't fit into narrowly-prescribed sexual and gender identities. It's not for nothing that the removal of homosexuality from the DSM was such an important victory in the campaign for equal rights for gays. If I knew the way/I would take you home. 04:15, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

It's possible to accept someone with a disorder as a human being. It's called not being a bigoted prick. Even if gay people were still considered to have a disorder, I wouldn't view them any differently. I don't view people with Gender Identity Disorder as lesser people because of the way they are. If confronted by intolerance, I would defend their right to do what they do. I think that men should be masculine, but I also realize that not everyone feels that way, and so I accept men who are not masculine. If there was someone who didn't think that people should be gay but accepted their right to be gay (similar to Mikal's position on abortion) and didn't make up any bullshit about it being harmful, I wouldn't consider them hateful or intolerant. There's a big difference between tolerating something and approving of it. Using your logic, I should consider Mikal intolerant and hateful for opposing the rights of women, yet I don't and it would be intolerant for me to do so. –Александр(а) Ehrenstein (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 04:40, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
"It's possible to accept someone with a disorder as a human being". That's not much of a concession, & doesn't address an argument anyone is actually making. Nobody is suggesting that LGBT people aren't human beings or that you are implying that. But regarding them as human doesn't automatically make you tolerant, and the "difference between tolerating something and approving of it" stuff just looks like an apologia for subtle forms of bigotry. When you suggest that LGBT people are confused, have something wrong with them, have a disorder, are weird, & should conform, you are being intolerant, whether you might think so or not. WéáśéĺóíďWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 12:08, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

wait wait wait[edit]

". I feel intense figurative pain whenever I see someone doing something "socially self sabotaging."

So... really ehr? --MikallakiM 04:35, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
If you have personal experience with Autism, you would know why I feel that way. Vergeltung (talk) 05:43, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
That's actually very interesting. What do you mean by "figurative?" I take it from knowing what little I do about the daily life of a high functioning autistic person that you might have a difficult time with the empathy part but have a sense that the person is breaking some cultural norm. I hope I'm not putting words in your mouth or being presumptuous about that. Does it ring true at all? Nutty Roux100x100 anarchy symbol.svg 18:06, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
Please use paragraph breaks. Nobody wants to read a wall o' text. — (talk to) [æn əˈmɛɹɪkən ˈnaiːɪlɪst] 19:17, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Things on the list of things I don't like[edit]

1. Other people editing my user page... not that anyone goes there, ha! Transitional FormStill Durbinating 19:03, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

But seriously, I consider that as over-the-line as anything on Rationalwiki can be, so please, don't do that again. Transitional FormStill Durbinating 19:05, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

I can't work on useful on mission stuff in my userspace while blocked[edit]

Please fix this. –Александр(а) Ehrenstein (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 19:27, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

I think your IP is now unblocked. Sprocket J Cogswell (talk) 23:15, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Here.[edit]

You might like this. The bus came by/and I got on.Moderator 23:38, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

I can tell that you are being trivializing to the seriousness of Nazis and Nazi revisionism. Right when I was thinking it would be wrong to document you on Bigotry Wiki, you had to give a whole new reason to put you on there. So you think that Nazis killing people is a joke. –Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 13:29, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
Whoa. Slow down. I think nothing of the sort. I honestly thought you'd be interested in some comic book/escapist fantasy based on something that I know that you're interested in -- the war on the Eastern Front -- that is largely overlooked in English-language cultural productions. I got that wrong, obviously. I didn't make the movie in question, and my suggesting you might find it fun is in no way a statement on my part about its appropriateness. Moreover, there is a long tradition of escapist fare based on the war, from "The Dirty Dozen" through "Hogan's Heroes," some Monty Python skits (the one with the line "Lampshade Time!" for example...) "Inglorious Basterds," "The Haunted Tank," and so many more, and, like it or not, there's going to be more and more of this as the war and the Shoah recede from living memory. That's hardly my fault, and it certainly doesn't make me what you think here. The bus came by/and I got on.Moderator 17:20, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
Sasha, I think you should back off from writing about RW users at your site. It doesn't look very cool & nothing good can come of it. WèàšèìòìďWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 17:40, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
That's good advice, Sasha. Nutty Roux100x100 anarchy symbol.svg 18:41, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry about jumping to conclusions about the movie suggestion. Thanks for suggesting it. As a serious suggestion it's pretty good. For a moment I thought you were trying to imply that I was acting like Nazis are some sort of monsters and that I'm tilting at windmills by working to counter Nazi revisionism and myths. –Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 01:21, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

I'm familiar with all those movies and TV shows and I don't have a problem with them. Again, sorry for going off. –Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 01:24, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

REplied on my talk page. The bus came by/and I got on.Moderator 01:32, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Your website[edit]

It's spitting various errors at me, and presumably everybody else. Clicking special:recentchanges reveals a lovely 500 error, and editing any page results in session data being lost. You might want to fix that. Brenden (talk) 21:24, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Which one are you talking about? –Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 21:29, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
If you mean this http://bigotry.sashaweb.net/Special:RecentChanges it occasionally gets a database error because it's on SQLite due to GoDaddy being run by morons. If you add ?action=purge to the URL it usually fixes it. –Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 21:30, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
Ah yes, I meant the bigotry.sashaweb.net site. Does GoDaddy offer proper MySQL, because if it does, I would recommend switching to it. Brenden (talk) 21:44, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. I checked it and it seems to be working. I'm going to be moving it to a MySQL database. For technical reasons, this is going to require installing a whole new wiki. I asked about SQLite -> MySQL at MW.org and the best solution I got was one that I'll have to test and see if it actually works. It will be easier to just export and import the pages, for the size of the wiki.
We've already move away from GoDaddy to Linode, the same as RW. Database nonsense was among the reasons. At some point we ended up with an error where we couldn't make databases manually, only by using an auto installer which is so bad that I wrote a warning here about it because the MW developers were sick of getting stuck with problems caused by webhost incompetence. I sent them messages about the problem, and every time they asked for a screenshot even though I told them exactly what was wrong, and doing so would require uploading files for a website that wouldn't work and creating a database that wouldn't work, just for the strong possibility that they wouldn't do anything about it. What finally got us to move was when nearly all of our domains on our shared hosting server when down for the second time, and they completely BSed us and said everything was fine.
As for databases, them limit them to 1GB each and charge almost as much as Linode's VPS hosting to have unlimited DB, even though nearly every hosting company gives that with their basic package.
Most of their support advice involves telling you that shared hosting doesn't work for what you want, and you need to buy their VPS hosting, which is crap and doesn't give you full access to the OS. –Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 22:02, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Why are you blocking good-faith editors as spambots?[edit]

I mean this guy. Listening to Ella Fitzgerald sing "Baby, if I'm the bottom, you're the top" is very different after reading Dan Savage's column..Moderator 22:37, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Why do you keep undoing my joke?[edit]

Picture of Schultz on a stupid wiki "award" = funny. Picture of real Nazi soldiers on a stupid wiki "award" = not funny, bordering on weird. Always default to funny. PowderSmokeAndLeather: Say something once, why say it again?.Moderator 03:33, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Just change the picture on the template. I'm not going to get anal about edits in my userspace, provided that there's a reason such as this for them. Long technical file names and uploads over WM Commons images aren't good. –Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 05:23, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
You do realize that the purpose of that was to point out that even I think that he's overly anti Fascist, right? –Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 05:29, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

You really gotta stop making those threats[edit]

Cause 1) they make you look pathetic and far more important 2: they aren't winning you anything love. --MikallakiM 20:50, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

No one is threatening you. Don't be paranoid. –Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 21:25, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Hey Ehr?[edit]

I dont want to be your enemy, i dont want to waste time and effort fighting you. But if your going to continue to accuse random, many long established people alongside newer users of libel and bigotry and make vague threats at us, yu are not going to last much longer on this website, So why dont you calm down love? --MikallakiM 04:33, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

I don't want to be your enemy either. I'm going to drop the stupid bigotry line. I really don't like it when you make your random, pointless comments. Please understand this. –Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 04:50, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

"The truth is not libel"[edit]

But describing somebody as a would-be rapist on negligible evidence is defamation. It's also remarkably two-faced when we've all seen you trying to buddy up with the guy. Since you're obviously not going to take a hint about this, let me put it plainly: I strongly suggest that you either delete those comments or at least make him aware of what you are saying about him. If not, I or somebody else is likely to. ωεαşεζøίɗWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 23:51, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

I can amend it. We also have a policy that if anyone becomes no longer bigoted, we will mention that on any pages that we have about them. I will also bring it to his attention. –Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 23:55, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Don't get too invested in the debate about the removed material.[edit]

The vote is running 4-1 in favour of deletion and the article probably won't be here by the weekend. So it goes. (also, don't put that template of yours on my talk page if you answer this. Every page I edit goes on my watchlist.) PowderSmokeAndLeather: Say something once, why say it again?.Moderator 18:41, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for that. The content should go somewhere. As worked up as everyone else is that I'm "victim blaming," I'm just as worked up (Well, maybe not, I'm consciously not letting it get to me. Alarmed might be a better word.) about the fact that people here are being victim blaming toward victims of Nazi genocide. Plus there's the fact that it would seem people would rather allow Nazi myths to perpetuate then have an article debunking them. "OMG (s)he's talking about rape again" is a pretty shitty reason to not have an article debunking Nazi myths. –Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 18:48, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

First rule of holes[edit]

--ZooGuard (talk) 20:32, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

hey Ehr[edit]

i'm sure you'd get a real kick out of this lot--MikallakiM 02:53, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, closet Nazis do that sort of thing. That is one of the more blatant examples. I wonder when the last time he had sex was. My guess is that he doesn't interact much with anyone outside his clique. I didn't really meet too many people like that in high school; most of my friends tended to be farther down the anti Nazi scale than I am. Based on what I've observed and learned, I'm guessing that closet Nazi/mall ninja/wehrmacht woo/military woo types form self feeding social groups. –Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 05:18, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Dumbass[edit]

Maybe you missed this: http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=RationalWiki:Saloon_bar&diff=prev&oldid=1220334 even so, your post to his talk page is just plain creepy. 77.109.139.26 (talk) 04:16, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

"It has people who are outright hostile to my accurate characterization of the Catholic church as an international child rape ring, and my accurate characterization that every self-professed Catholic, and especially the ones who tithe, provide material and moral support to this child rape ring."
ಠ_ಠ
That was sad though, and I feel bad for him. I'd help him through what ever he's going through if I could. I realize what you're referring to as creepy. I wasn't suggesting that he should engage in wild fantasies of having sex with every girl he meets; that would be creepy, and even more so if he doesn't have an interest or chance with any of them. My goal was to point out to him that most guys have some girl who they are interested in, in a healthy, non obsessive way. –Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 05:11, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
"Accusing all members of the Church as being no better than Nazis or members of the KKK isn't, even if your reasons for doing so are explained. It's silly, shrill, and counter-productive."
Sounds like he's trying to take my job.
I agree with the rest of what that user said, and I work to make sure that I take people's attitudes into account when I actually debate with them. It's actually fairly easy to do when you debate people IRL, provided that you don't want to be an asshole. Given that EL can't do that, it tells me that he never debates his opinions with people IRL, which isn't good. To give an example, when I counter the closet Nazi anti Israel liberal kiddies, I can't point out to them anywhere near the beginning of the argument that they're just translating kauft nicht bei Juden because that just puts them into denial that what they're doing is anti-Semitic. I'll say that on the internet in my own space but it's just venting and intentional ranting, which I try to confine to my blog. It also seems that EL is confused about reality and genuinely believes that people want to support child molesters. As much as I've yelled at people about being Nazi sympathetic, I realize that none of them are Nazi sympathizers and their incorrect position comes out of wanting to do the right thing but not understanding the situation. Plus I also realize I'm harder on the Germans than most people. Yet you don't see me completely convinced that RW is some sort of Nazi conspiracy. –Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 05:30, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Please stop talking about Nazis and Jews, Ehrenstein. Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 05:33, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Tech user group[edit]

I have moved you into the tech user group please see my post at RationalWiki:Requests for tech rights. I apprecaite your offer to help and look forward to your seeing your work. There seems to be some concerns about past edit wars on site, you have stated your looking to move past all that and I believe you. I do emphasize though for sake of completeness that the tech rights should never be used for content or other on wiki disputes. Thanks again! Tmtoulouse (talk) 16:17, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Huge floating medals all round! SophieWilderModerator 19:02, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Renaming an impersonator account[edit]

Renaming an impersonator account leaves open the impersonating username to another attack. As this should be obvious to anyone experienced with MediaWiki (and indeed, with the Internet in general), I'm going to assume that you did it deliberately.--ZooGuard (talk) 18:05, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Alright, I'll change it back then. Pages should also not be protected indefinitely. If there's not a flood of vandalism that doesn't need to be prevented, then it shouldn't be protected. –Jewish Bolshevik (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox) 20:25, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

sysoppery[edit]

I don't know why you demoted that guy if you are so afraid of his contributions. It doesn't look to me as if he has a record of positive contributions warranting sysop status. You could have put him under autopatrolled which removes the captcha. However, if you are going to grant someone privileges, at least do it graciously and in good faith. --DamoHi 06:02, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I wasn't sure if that would do it. It does seem like he's more focused on debate, so I'm not really worried. –Aleksandr(a) Ehrenstein, Jewish Bolshevik 06:04, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Your abysmal social and emotional IQ[edit]

I'm not interested in seeing any response from you or people pile on to make this worse. I'm only going to say that I really wish you could look at yourself from the outside in and consider how others perceive you and what you do here. Some of it is a liability to the wiki. RW is already having credibility problems that I'm now learning are affecting my ability to get some prominent skeptics and academics to help me better understand how to grow a skeptical not-for-profit. If you truly do believe the kind of weird shit about Thunderf00t being an autistic misogynist virgin, keep it to yourself. RW isn't a chat site for deranged cranks and you've started becoming embarrassing. Nazis nazis nazis rape anti-feminist misogynist virgin it's ok for people I disagree with to have violence done on them. I personally would be mortified to see any discussion on any other site like Reddit, Less Wrong, or Facebook of some of the things you say here. Can you try acting like a human being while you're here? Nutty Roux100x100 anarchy symbol.svg 15:50, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Fair enough. I've been working on that, and I do see now how that would be viewed as immature. This probably doesn't make it much better, but I hadn't realized that people would react the same way to virgin jokes as they do to accusations of Nazi sympathy. I have friends who have made virgin jokes, but I do see how using it outside of the proper context is juvenile. I had been thinking that the only people who would be offended by virgin jokes are virgins, but I see that isn't the case. Point is, I wouldn't have made another stupid comment like this about hating Nazis, since I understand how that goes over. –Aleksandr(a) Ehrenstein, Jewish Bolshevik 16:48, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Block of User:Hamilton[edit]

You don't get to decide punishments and hand them out. It's especially not wise when you consider yourself to be the injured party. Next time, take him to the Coop if you think it's serious. Thank you very much for complying in the future.--ADtalkModerator 23:29, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

I just saw that you threatened him on his userpage. That is explicitly the opposite of what I said above, and certainly not cool with our policy here. I have yanked your hammer in irritation, although of course I have no authority to keep it from you if someone else gives it back. You both are in that boat now, actually.--ADtalkModerator 23:41, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

I didn't threaten him. I don't exactly see what you're talking about. All I said was that I wasn't going to help him get sysop back after he was rude when I offered to help him. I think you might be confused about what demote means in this context. It's the usual "to promote to sysop." Please restore my rights so I can continue work on gadgets and the like. I have a whole project of migrating template formatting to the CSS pages to allow for greater compatibility with different skins. –Aleksandr(a) Ehrenstein, Jewish Bolshevik 00:42, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
But i like having the site break because nobody else uses monobook. --Mikal | lakiM 01:36, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
I know what demote means on RW. And you didn't specifically threaten him, but you posted this whole long passive-aggressive thing taunting him and getting into this whole further condescension approach, which is exactly the opposite of that whole "you are not the judge" thing I said. It was the opposite of helpful except to your ego.--ADtalkModerator 02:23, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
Ok, I was angry. I should have been careful not to be inflammatory. I did have a serious suggestion though about controlling oneself, and how I go through difficult times like he did where I have to resist lashing out. –Aleksandr(a) Ehrenstein, Jewish Bolshevik 02:29, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

Continuing from User Talk:Hamilton[edit]

From what I read, it looked more like you were taunting Hamilton rather than offering help. Again, why does your word carry more weight -because you were one of the belligerents? --TheLateGatsby (The end of the dock ) 04:18, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

I did tell him that he should calm down, not in the friendliest way. My point was that I don't go off revoking sysop status and issuing long term blocks on people who I've though were acting in a Nazi sympathetic manner. If I can control myself about Nazis and the Holocaust than so should he. The comparison between the Holocaust and transgender persecution was possibly unnecessary. –Aleksandr(a) Ehrenstein, Jewish Bolshevik 04:27, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
You can set a better example to Hamilton if you use restraint in both words and deeds. --TheLateGatsby (The end of the dock ) 04:52, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
Good point. I wouldn't raise it again, but hopefully he'll see that I take the Nazi sympathies/myths issue seriously, yet show restraint, and so he'll translate that toward his own issues he considers important. –Aleksandr(a) Ehrenstein, Jewish Bolshevik 05:03, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
Your constant harping on Nazi this and that is actually getting to the point that it makes your presence community-damaging. Empathy. Learn it. Nutty Roux100x100 anarchy symbol.svg 23:50, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

"users worse than i am"[edit]

and you wonder why we dont like you--Mikal | lakiM 18:40, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

He wrote NAZIS RAPE NAZIS RAPE NAZIS RAPE just to troll. –Aleksandr(a) Ehrenstein, Jewish Bolshevik 18:43, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
Thats wonderful, maintaining a list of "these users suck" on your userpage isnt how wikis work, my "be polite " friend. --Mikal | lakiM 18:45, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
Actually, I wrote NAZI RAPE NAZI RAPE RAPE NAZI, which I obviously intended to be read "Nazi, rape nazi. Rape - rape nazi." I clearly want nazi's to rape oneanother. That must be a deeply ethical dilemma to you - should nazi's rape nazi's? Hipocrite 19:07, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

That list is a convenient way to draw and retain personal animosity from the people named, zombify previous incidents so that they never descend into the past and allow you to move on, and otherwise retard your attempts to get along with folks. You may think it is epistemically rational, but it is certainly not instrumentally rational. Consider that.--ADtalkModerator 23:23, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

I made this sort of list back in 2010, and what happened is exactly what AD said would happen. Eventually, I learned how damaging obsessing over past slights is and learned to let go. You should, too, Ehrenstein. Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 00:08, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for your constructive words. I deleted it. I also bit my tongue at the stupid comments by Hipocrite, which make light of people who were raped and murdered by the Nazis. I decided not to make some sort of come back, because it would just feed the cycle. Users like him need to understand that this is a two way street, and they shouldn't say anything intentionally provocative. Even if they don't I won't respond to them so that I don't keep doing what I said I would stop. –Aleksandr(a) Ehrenstein, Jewish Bolshevik 00:47, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

MediaWiki usage tip #umpteenth[edit]

Oversighting a revision does nothing to hide the text it introduced in the current version of the article. You need to revert before oversighting, and oversight all revisions between the "bad" one and the removal of the text.--ZooGuard (talk) 16:33, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Also, don't oversight if it's not personal information or something else serious. You can just undo your edit or remove your text if you said something stupid.--"Shut up, Brx." 16:35, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
I did remove what I wanted to oversight. Also, it was personal information. –Aleksandr(a) Ehrenstein, Jewish Bolshevik 16:54, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Hey Dummy.[edit]

1. My name isn't "Mike." ("It was a fairly common first name of a user that was found publicly on his blog." I don't have a blog.) 2. I know how to work a watchlist, so I don't nee your stupid templates ugly-ing up my talk page. 3. Nazis. PowderSmokeAndLeather: Say something once, why say it again?.Moderator 18:22, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Re:Should we undelete this?[edit]

If you want to snag a copy for posting on your own wiki, fine, makes sense to me. Undeleting it here considering why it got deleted in the first place is almost certainly more trouble than it is worth. Arcane (talk) 16:04, 24 September 2013 (UTC)Arcane

Just want to add this: it is quite obvious there are several people here who you seem to have angered in some fashion. I'm not planning to try interfering or antagonizing them myself, but it's obvious some even want your input on certain topics persona non grata anywhere on this wiki. If anything, I suggest you content yourself to moving anything not welcome here to another wiki location, as it seems here is not worth stirring up a hornet's nest against yourself, at least not more than there is already. In fact, even though I am your friend here, I have to admit, you have been rather insistent on arguing your points, even to people who seem to have little patience for them, so, as your friend, I'm asking you not do anything that might even get you barred from posting anything on RW. Arcane (talk) 16:35, 24 September 2013 (UTC)Arcane
Thanks. I'm not discussing that topic any more. The only reason why I posted there today was because I didn't want to ignore TH. –Aleksandr Ehrenstein, Jewish Bolshevik 16:40, 24 September 2013 (UTC)